Michael's Dispatches

Michael Moore’s Crime

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Many readers have complained that Michael Moore, in the conduct of his latest crusade against whatever he is against this month, has illegally used one of my photos on the banner of his website. Mr. Moore is not the first to have done so, and my readers can get pretty upset when it happens.

 

My lawyer has demanded that Mr. Moore take it down.

 

I usually freely grant use of my work to truthful, peaceful, non-commercial, non-political outlets. For instance, a church group wanted to use one of my photos for their congregation. I was honored and gave it to them freely. On another occasion, a peaceful, non-profit Islamic organization wanted to use the same photo that Michael Moore has infringed upon (Major Mark Bieger cradling a little girl named Farah), and I was honored to contribute to their peaceful cause. I’ve seen grandmothers use my work in technically illegal ways, but since they’re not a big company, they probably have no idea about copyright, and usually use the work in tasteful, appropriate ways, I just smile and say “Go ahead, Ma’am.”

 

But frequently, big companies and individuals who are knowledgeable of copyright laws filch my work and use it in ways that many readers consider partisan, highly political or incendiary. When this happens, I usually go after the infringer, and so do my readers.

 

Now here’s Michael Moore, the latest infringer, using my work for his own crude political purposes. I recall some years ago watching one of his movies in Paris, and thinking how sad it was that an American would make propaganda so flagrant that it seemed pornographic. It was sad but at the same time uplifting, because Mr. Moore was able to exercise his right to free speech, rights that should never be infringed upon.

 

Mr. Moore is influential, rich, and could likely intimidate most photographers. But I ask my readers to please leave him be. Attacking him likely will be counterproductive. I know how to fight, and though I would fight for Mr. Moore’s right to free expression, I will fight against him if he steals my work and uses it in an inflammatory fashion.

 

It’s got nothing to do with the fact that Michael Moore is anti-war (he’s not just against the Iraq War, but he was also against the war in Afghanistan). I respect Moore’s opposition to the Iraq War; I might even agree with him on some particulars. But I object to the tone of many of his arguments, especially the manner in which he uses my work to further his causes. As I said above, sometimes it seems pornographic. That’s a strong word, so I’ll explain.

 

Justice Potter Stewart once defined pornography by saying, “I know it when I see it.” Pornography and propaganda are closely related, as they are both cynical attempts at manipulation, rooted in a lack of respect for humanity. War Porn is one of the more disturbing developments in the new media, as people on both sides of the Iraq War get their kicks watching video images of death and destruction as long as it’s their opponents who get killed. Whether it’s an Al Qaeda cell-phone video of an IED attack or the grisly footage of a Coalition air strike, War Porn is degrading and incendiary. Of course, some footage is newsworthy and informative and the public deserves to see it. There is also great value to soldiers in watching footage for training purposes and to better understand battlefields and weapons. But at some point, especially when the material is used to make political points, images of combat can cross the line into pornography. People die in war, but we must never forget that each casualty is a human being, even people as deserving of death as Al Qaeda. Denying our opponents’ humanity, we lose a little of our own.

 

When someone’s grandmother disseminates the photo of Major Beiger cradling a dying girl in his arms, I allow the usage because I feel she is trying to share the human tragedy. When Michael Moore puts that same photo on his web site, alongside images of George Bush, John McCain and Hillary Clinton, the clear implication is that Farah’s death is their fault. That is a misrepresentation of the facts on the ground, as well as the story of the photo. Farah was killed by a suicide car bomb in Mosul on May 2, 2005. Major Bieger and other soldiers literally risked their own lives to save many children and adults that day, but Farah didn’t make it. Michael Moore apparently does not understand or refuses to acknowledge the moral distinction between a man who would murder innocent people, and a man who would sacrifice himself to save them. The photo, as I took it, is the truth, but Moore uses it illegally to convey falsehoods. His mind is that of a political propagandist who sees Farah’s death not as a human tragedy, but a tool.

 

A photograph can be a signal event in a war. Think of the flag raising at Iwo Jima, the naked Vietnamese girl fleeing her napalmed village, prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib. These photos were not just important journalistically, but also strategically each one literally shifted the course of a war. Photographs can be immensely powerful because they are single images, deep with meaning, able to resonate with disparate audiences, straight through language barriers, at an emotional, even visceral, level. A picture can tell a thousand words in a thousand languages, but placed in the wrong context, a photograph can be turned into propaganda, and the truth becomes a lie.

 

We need to know the truth about the wars we are currently fighting. That’s why I went to Iraq in the first place. Sometimes the difference between War Porn and the truth can be subtle, ambiguous, even subjective. But I know it when I see it. And if Michael Moore learned to respect not just my work, but other aspects of the truth, not to mention respecting his audience’s intelligence, he would better serve his own cause.

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    Bill Fuller · 10 years ago
    M. Moore is unworthy of comment. You sir, on the other hand have done our brave men and women of the military the justice they deserve. Your work of truth is a great comfort & source of pride to the famlies and friends of the troops
    who have to man the home front while their loved ones are kicking butt. (we have two grandsons in Iraq each for the 2nd time). An old platoon sergeant informed me back in the early fiftys "if your honest and good, people will know; you don't have to tell them." Your work speaks for you Mr Yon. God Bless you, all of our troops & families and the USA.
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    William Ryan · 10 years ago
    If the shoe were on the other foot, imagine the response. Imagine Moore calmly and maturely responding to someone he considered "pro war" about using his work in a clearly political manner. Impossible. He'd do his typical smarmy attempt at the high road laden with sarcasm and venom. He seldom (never that I've seen) tries to present a fair representation of views he opposes - in fact, if you disagree with him, you deserve mocked and ridiculed. I remember how he responded after the outrage of his mosaic after Bush won the last election.... like he always does.

    You couldn't have written a better response and it's just one more reason I admire you. Moore has no class and never will.
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    maryann · 10 years ago
    Michael,
    I have followed you all the way from beginning to present of the iraqi conflict. Ive cried with you, laughed with you. Ive sat on the edge of my seat(Gates of Fire) reading for hours. You are the best. Your work reflects the man that you are,your integrity just the whole package. You are the good were I consider Mr. Moore the evil... That picture is so precious, to imagine someone using it like he is. The man is a disgrace. Thank you for everything you are doing for us and our Military.

    Proud Military Wife
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    Mountaingirl · 10 years ago
    Your book is the window into the lives of men-of-action like nothing I've ever read. Thank you for having the integrity to maintain your objectivity. It continues to show us your courage to give us the whole truth.

    It makes no difference that Moore is sitting on a mountain of money.
    You are the rare breed who battles best where the air is thin.

    Take it to him and keep taking it to him! And let us know what we can do!
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    StrangeLove · 10 years ago
    I admire your restraint.
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    Aye Chihuahua · 10 years ago
    Mr. Yon,

    Apparently your efforts, and the ensuing attention, has worked.

    The photo is gone from his site.

    ***

    Thank you for everything you do.

    I have enjoyed your writing on the Net and have almost completed your book.

    May God continue to bless you and keep you safe.
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    Rick Kellogg · 10 years ago
    It looks like the pressure has worked. I just clicked on Michael Moore's website (and will now shower).

    He has had Michael Yon's photo removed and replaced with other anonymous photos of wartime suffering.
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    Yashmak · 10 years ago
    "you sure have zero tolerance for differentiating views on matters."

    So indicating distaste for a differing view is now to be considered 'zero tolerance'? Riiight.

    "You can't just say that Moore's work is propaganda. You have to prove it."

    Michael Yon doesn't need to prove that. There have been entire books published for that express purpose, that have accomplished the task beyond a reasonable doubt. Moore's work is indeed propaganda.
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    Tony · 10 years ago
    Michael,
    Once again, your honesty and the truth prevail. It is refreshing to read your posts and your books as they proffer, not only a deep humanity and selflessness, but the crux of humanity. It is there for all to see, but you see it.
    Many do not. Perhaps that is why their lives are unfulfilled and unhappy.
    Where there is humanity, there is hope. Where there is hope, there is a future.
    May your God, and that of your readers, whichever God it may be, keep you safe in the struggle to keep the truth out there.
    Decency, honesty and integrity cannot be taught. Only learnt.
    Stay safe.
    Tony
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    Rev. Don Pendergraft · 10 years ago
    I have seen comments that say that the image has been removed. When I went to his website on 5/20/2008 at 2pm C.S.T. the image was still there.

    Thank you for all you do Michael.

    Don+
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    Dale Stoy · 10 years ago
    I agree with the observation, "A photograph can be a signal event in a war. Think of the flag raising at Iwo Jima, the naked Vietnamese girl fleeing her napalmed village, prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib. These photos were not just important journalistically, but also strategically ƒ?? each one literally shifted the course of a war.

    Why do you suppose images of beheadings by terrorists don't seem to have had any significant impact?
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    Tommy Green · 10 years ago
    I checked the site and he's taken that picture off now.
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    Waynester · 10 years ago
    Looks like MM's webmaster/webwench/lawyers got the message...
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    Dave · 10 years ago
    God bless you Mr. Yon, and God bless America. The nation has seen worse threats than that Moore. That fella would have no home to go to if his ilk had their way.
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    jstanley01 · 10 years ago
    Michael Yon: Kickin' butt and takin' names! WOO HOO!
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    Kurt Schoeneman · 10 years ago
    Michael Moore will do and say anything to make his point. I really don't think he stands for anything except himself. Disgusting.
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    Paul Cox · 10 years ago
    That includes you, Mr Yon.

    Look, the likely reality is that Moore didn't personally select and post that photo on part of his web site. "Michael Moore" isn't just a fat guy who makes movies and stirs people up for his causes; he's a business. The odds are very good that Moore had no clue that the photo was posted.

    Does that make it right? Of course not. Stealing someone's image is wrong.

    But it's fairly ridiculous for all these people commenting to be going off on him on a personal, hate-filled level. The very idea of hating someone because they disagree with us, politically, is just blatantly outright stupid.

    Whether Moore is a propagandist or a talented movie maker seems to depend on where the critic falls on a political scale. This means that it's not an objective truth and therefore the level of venom aimed at him personally is unwarranted and uncalled for- just as it's uncalled for to slag on him personally for the unauthorized use of Michael Yon's photo unless someone (including Yon) KNOWS for a fact that Moore knows that use wasn't authorized and is deliberately continuing to use it.

    Believe it or not, there's plenty of people (like me) who are against the war in Iraq but love Yon's site and what he's doing to bring us the real news as he sees it. (Personally, I'm all for the war in Afghanistan; they had it coming. Host terrorists who attack other nations and your government deserves to be demolished.) I have written positively about this (Yon's) site on my own blog and will continue to do so, but one of the big reasons I do is that Mr Yon typically sticks to a "just the facts" approach. On this one, well... not so much.

    In any case, the offending photo is now gone, within a few days of this news hitting this site, so perhaps Moore decided to do the right thing and isn't so evil and heinous after all?
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    Roy Mustang · 10 years ago
    Our military are war criminals that prey on our young to join them.....according to Mr. Moore. Is he evil and heinous? I guess he would be only if you find his views disgusting.
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    Gismo Fly · 10 years ago
    In any many other parts of the world Micky Flatulence would be either dead, incarcerated or applying for asylum in the USA. The fact that he lives and can earn money while crapping in his nest is a tribute to American tolerance and generosity. You, as a nation, are a saintly bunch.

    When this man dies please let me know where he is buried so that I can join the annual pilgrimage to piss on his grave.

    Best regards,

    Gismo
    London
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    Huntress · 10 years ago
    Paul Cox - I'd like to know how you KNOW what the facts are. Do you know Michael Moore personally? Michael Yon has called for civility towards Michael Moore in light of what he knows the facts are.

    Mr. Moore - who I have the personal displeasure of knowing and sadly crossing paths with on MANY occasions is FULLY aware of what images HE selects for any of his films and his website. HE is a control freak who makes all his OWN decisions.

    He has a history of stealing images & misleading, misrepresenting, and misusing both information, images, and people to push forward his sick twisted deceitful agenda.
    This has nothing to do with his personal politics. I could care less if he supports the war or not. This is about his deceitfulness. EVERYONE of his mockumentaries is filled with twisted, distorted, misleading lies and innuendos. That explains why he has to lawyer up at every press event he does to publicize this garbage he puts forth.

    Michael Yon's reaction to Mr Moore's theft has been professional and based on facts - not innuendo. Why you choose to give a liar like Moore the benefit of the doubt of an honorable man like Michael Yon who you allege to read and respect - is beyond understanding.

    It is your attitude that leaves much to be desired..not Michael Yon's clear level classy approach to a thief's actions.

    Mr Moore deliberately twisted & misrepresented the realities of the Canadian healthcare system in his MOCKUMENTARY "Sicko" . I know - I am Canadian and I have also lived in the US - so I have a point of comparison and I know the truth!

    "Sicko" is not simply the title of his mockumentary - but rather aptly describes Michael Moore's state of mind.
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    Christina Finn · 10 years ago
    Michael,
    I wrote to you a couple of years ago! I have been following your dispatches, and forwarded and shared your site with contacts in my address book! I Truly DO Respect your integrity and your ƒ??EYEƒ? for the truth! Yes it is True a picture is worth a thousand words! I remember well, when your photographic image hit the net! I was moved beyond comprehension by the Compassion that emanated from this Profound Moment caught in time for All to understand, throughout future History!
    I have spent many waking hours Supporting our Troops and share with all whom will listen, ƒ??I Believe in them and their mission!ƒ? They have spoken their Truth and shared their experiences, boots on the ground, in the field! I have visited D.C. #18 times to spend time with our Healing Heroes in both WRAMC & Bethesda. Even this past January making a trip to Landstuhl, we have heard first hand their stories. They know they are making a difference! I Honor your fortitude and insight to Hold Up those that would chastise the efforts of the brave and true!
    Thank You for documenting from within a ƒ??Soldiers Perspective!ƒ? Your image has captured the heart of a caring, compassionate and loving America! If only there was not suppression, evil and dictatorships. All citizens of the world deserve to know Freedom and Liberty! I have truly treasured your eloquent text, and visual acuity through the lens of your eyeƒ??s perspective! Keep Up the great work, it is obvious you are passionate to enlighten and teach those of us who are Blessed to live within the safety of these Shores! Godƒ??s continued watchful protection over You and our Troops, as you continue The Mission!
    I will encourage all to visit your site and purchase copies of your wonderful books! Keep writing and educating! I only wish more professors on campus, had your Patriotism and Heart!
    Michael do NOT allow an opportunist like Moore to violate your profound image! Take the gloves off and go ten rounds if you have to. Prostitution is a filthy business!
    Respectfully,
    Christina Finn ƒ??The Pillow Lady!ƒ?

    God Speed!

    God Bless Our Troops, Our Veterans, Our World Leaders, & America!

    Respectfully,
    Christina & Daniel T. Finn (Ret.) Army Vietnam Veteran 25th ID 4/23 Mech. ƒ??Tomahawkƒ?
    Founder / CO-Coordinators
    Patriotic Pillow Project SM
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    Grumpy · 10 years ago
    Mr. Yon is always a pleasure to read and, even now, amazes me that he can so politely tell off Mr. Moore in such a well written manner. I would have been much more crude.
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    The dark north · 10 years ago
    To Yashmak

    So indicating distaste for a differing view is now to be considered 'zero tolerance'? Riiight.

    No - Indicating distaste is one thing.

    But referring to a person as an idiot just because he happens to have a differentiating view on things, is another.

    I might not entirely agree with everything Michael Yon writes for one thing, and I do not share the political views of many others commenting here. But I will not in any way or shape or form refer to them as idiots or any other degoratory remarks, simply because they are people expressing their views on matters.

    Also making quite preposterous comparisons with, for example Leni Riefenstahl.

    It's quite all right to express distaste for actions taken, but it CAN be done without resorting to verbal abuse or name calling.

    Michael Yon did it quite well in his article above here, even though I am not entirely sure that Michael Moore had the intent of putting the picture there that Michael thinks.
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    John Bailey · 10 years ago
    Mr. Moore's movies cross the liner between documentary and treason (as defined by 18 USC Sec. 2388-2389). However, our government typically reserves the prosecution of treason to those guilty of the most heinous offenses.

    We are grateful that Mr. Yon's work has been removed from Mr. Moore's website. But that does not mean Mr. Moore should be "let off the hook". He should be "encouraged" not to do it again by punitive damages.

    Mr. Yon has taken the high road on this. He is to be applauded.
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    woodNfish · 10 years ago
    John Baily wrote: "our government typically reserves the prosecution of treason to those guilty of the most heinous offenses."

    If that were true Mr. Bailey, Jane Fonda would have spent the last 36 years in prison. Actually our government is entirely too soft on traitors. Personally, I'd put them up against a wall and shoot them. That includes people who become traitors for campaign donations too.
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    dano · 10 years ago
    I'm seeing alot of hockey-stick curves here. The readers' unctuous, fawning praise for Mr. Yon, declarations of admiration at Mr. Yon's "restraint", affirmations of the sanctity of tolerance and civility, then the plummet. The fangs are revealed by the rising lip-curtain, and M.M. is beheaded to chants of the pledge of allegiance, his "fat & putrid head" raised on a lance and paraded thru the streets that surround our countries military bases. Mr. Yon's pulpit also radiates the same kind of hockey-stick curve.
    It's an image, used in a collage. The reader draws their own conclusion. The soldier isn't shooting the child. He's trying to save it. Theft? What does Mr. Yon believe he would do with the image? What is Mr. Yon's damage? Does Mr. Moore's use of it devalue the image.. lessen future compensation for the holy privilege of it's use? Good Lord.
    On the bathroom mirror in a house in Fallujah, an American soldier scrawled a hate-filled message in lipstick, as an entire family sprawled on the floor where they had been sleeping..full of M16 holes. I've never seen that photo. No one has. So much for balance.
    In Afghanistan, the U.S. killed, by conservative estimates, over 3000 innocent civilians. How many were killed on 9/11?
    Iraq is a destroyed country, credible estimates put the number of dead civilians as a result of our unilateral invasion at near a million. One quarter of the entire population is refugeed. Over 4000 of our soldiers are dead. 30,000 plus are injured.
    And Mr. Yon is upset over an image in a collage.
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    Jeff D · 10 years ago
    The only time I have ever visited Mooreƒ??s website was today. I visited just long enough to see that the heroic image of Farah being cradled in the arms of Major Bieger has been removed.

    Putting aside any legal concerns, the bigger obligation required of Mr. Yon is to honor Farah by protecting her image from misrepresentation. Her image was immortalized in Mr. Yonƒ??s photograph and obviously he understands the responsibility he assumed in that moment.

    Major Bieger cradled Farah in his arms and Mr. Yon cradled them both in his cameraƒ??s lens so we all may see the greatness and heroism that we are capable of.
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    T. R. Mader · 10 years ago
    Mr. Yon - Keep up the good work. I want you to know there are a lot of civilians like myself who are extremely grateful to those who have served and those like yourself who tell us of all the good they do.

    I live in South Dakota and have led Patriotic Tributes to Veterans on the Fourth of July for the last few year. I've also joined our Junior U.S. Senator, John Thune, in welcoming troops back from Iraq.

    I'm working on a project that has great potential for encouragement to the troops and would like your assistance in a small way. Please contact me. Thanks.
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    SFC Cheryl McElroy U · 10 years ago
    Michael,

    Re your quote:

    "A photograph can be a signal event in a war. .....the naked Vietnamese girl fleeing her napalmed village....but placed in the wrong context, a photograph can be turned into propaganda, and the truth becomes a lie."

    Just FYI: That particular photo of the Vietnamese girl was exploited in a very damaging way.

    As stated by the photographer himself, Nick Ut, and clearly shown on film, the Viet Nam Air Force (VNAF) dropped the bombs that hurt Kim. This was witnessed and reported by UPI television correspondent Christopher Wain, and also reported correctly in the 10 June 1972 edition of Stars & Stripes.....Other journalists who were not there, through assumption, sloppy work, or malice, have since reported that the attack was by US aircraft, and have further embellished the story recently. Most of the commercials for the recent A&E Network documentary, and indeed, the host on the broadcast, said that the documentary would show ''the American commander who ordered the bombing''. That statement is not true. No American commander had anything to do with the bombing.

    [note from webmaster] Hyperlink was removed

    Michael Moore is a disgusting pig. He's a miscreant who sensationalizes the grief and sacrifice of American Soldiers for his leftwingnut agenda. Anyone with a couple of firing neurons will dismiss him as a fraud.


    I wish everyone a good Memorial Day. Take care, Michael.
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    SFC Cheryl McElroy U · 10 years ago
    While youƒ??re anally fixated on body counts, weƒ??ve killed THOUSANDS of enemy combatants in Iraq and Afghanistan. That kinda escapes you, doesnƒ??t it?
    Asshats like you trivialize those killed on 9/11 and use the sacrifice of American Soldiers as another notch in your anti-war belt. By the way: We didnƒ??t mess around with Hiroshima, Nagasaki, or Dresden, now did we? We were as brutal as necessary to fight an enemy hellbent for world domination. Innocent people die in every war. It takes years to rebuild any country involved in catastrophic conflict. The restructuring of Italy, Japan and Germany took decades. Whatƒ??s the point besides the one on your head?


    The invasion of Afghanistan was prompted by its use as the major operating base for al Qaeda.
    The invasion of Iraq was instigated by 12 years of nose thumbing on the part of a WMD-wielding terrorist-supporting megalomaniac. U.N. Resolution 1441 gave Hussein an ultimatum and us the specific authority to force compliance, by any necessary means. That included military force. In case you didnƒ??t know, we found a substantial amount of hidden WMD along with documents and recordings in which Saddam Hussein emphatically stated his intention to continue WMD development and deception.

    Oh yeah, and as for your lame reference to the "credible sources" on civilian casualties, you probably got your "information" from George Soros'-funded debunked Lancet study propaganda:

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2008/02/09/us-has-killed-655-000-iraqis-soros-funded-lancet-study-debunked

    And here:

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article3177653.ece

    We were attacked by Islamic thugs supported not only by Iraq and Afghanistan but throughout the Middle East and they are two good places to start retaliation. Somebody had to step up to the plate. I didn't see the Eurotrash clamoring to join in.

    Had I been in power, I would have made William Tecumseh Sherman look like a Boy Scout. Four countries would have been carpet-bombed into asphalt parking lots right off the bat: Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, and Syria. Then I would have told Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Yemen, Eygpt, and the rest ofthe Islamofascist states to brace themselves; we're not done.
    That is how you fight a war. But I was a Soldier, not a diplomat.

    Ok, dano, you can go back to playing with yourself.
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    thomas1950 · 10 years ago
    Interesting. Now that he has removed the image, I wonder if Mr. Moore has been able to find a suitable replacement. I mean, over the last five years have there been many other photos of casualties in Iraq?
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    TJ · 10 years ago
    Yes, Dano, there are thousands of refugees. And yes, there are thousands of casualties of innocents. That's what happens in WAR. OPEN DECLARED WAR. Nobody told the people in the World Trade Centers that "Hey, we are in a war, it starts today, and you may want to stay out of high rise buildings or avoid any flights on commercial airlines". I am pretty sure that nearly everyone in Afghanistan and in Iraq knew that the USA was coming...we tend not to fly aiplanes into buildings without warning. Osama had plenty of time to move his tookus out of the plains and into the mountains, throwing the Afghani's in our way as living shields. Pretty nice guy, huh?

    So save your sob story for someone less gullible. War is War. There are casualties. There are refugees. It sucks. That's why we as a nation should do whatever possible to avoid it. But here's the cold hard truth that you bleeding hearts don't seem to get--We either fight them over there in the sand, or we fight them over here on our soil. Which way do you want it?

    We avoided it, shunned it for too long, and it cost us over 3000 INNOCENT, NON-COMBATATIVE LIVES IN ONE DAY. Clinton HAD Bin Laden handed to him, but let him go. "I have not had sexual relations with that woman". While we were focused on what the "definition of is, is", they were planning our downfall. Now we are supposed to feel regret or give up because there have been some casualties?

    Sorry, Dano, but I am not buying the crap you are selling.
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    dano · 10 years ago
    Cheryl.. The Lancet report was never "discredited". The girl in that photo was a victim of the U.S. military. Cheryl, you're a nut. I mean it. A retired military nut. I hope you have meds.
    TJ..news flash. Iraq and Afghanistan had nothing to do with 9/11. So all those 1000,s of innocents you dismiss as just chopped onions in a freedom-omelet are going to be staring at you after you pass and go to whatever place you're destined for. Hope you're ready. You would make Heydrich proud.
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    Tux Vader · 10 years ago
    Regardless of what you think the facts are, Mr. Moore stole and misused a copyrighted image plain and simple. You think that posting it to his web site made no statement and that the photo was simply open to individual interpretation? Possibly but the fact is Mr. Yon took the photo, owns the photo and as such determines when and how that photo is used. Period. As a film maker Mr. Moore knows better. Do you think Mr. Moore would sit idly by if someone was copying parts of his movies and posting them on the internet without his permission? Hardly. This is just another example of Mr. Moore's over inflated sense of self worth and importance. He has appointed himself the moral compass of society. I don't know him personally but I do find his self righteous arrogance sickening and repulsive.

    Whether or not someone agrees or disagrees with the war in Iraq is one thing but this was simply a case of copyright infringement. Mr. Moore should not only pay for the images use but also for penalties for its illegal use.
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