Stalking Soldier Arrested, Disarmed by Texas Police: Some facts, opinion, and analysis

28 March 2013

img001US Army Master Sergeant CJ Grisham: This Soldier has a Top Secret clearance.

Over the past couple of years, I repeatedly warned the US Army that Master Sergeant Christopher “CJ” Grisham is a lethal threat.  These warnings were ignored.

Grisham has harassed a long list of people, and has stalked me.  Ignoring him did not work.  Grisham contacted units with which I was embedded, and he impeded my wartime work.  I continued to warn the Army that if they did not get this Soldier under control, there would be consequences.  After some time, the inevitable occurred.

I never met Grisham.  Never saw him in person.  Never spoke with him.  Initially, his motivations for stalking me were mysterious, apparently stemming from my failure to answer an email during a period when I was receiving thousands.  Despite my efforts, nearly 8,000 emails remain unopened, though I continue to work through the backlog.  Grisham seemed to be upset that I did not reply.  I do not recall his message.

Over time, Grisham’s intentions became clear.  He craves attention, and I had a large footprint at the time, due to public interest in the wars.

Grisham joined the angry chorus of stay-at-home, radically rightwing milbloggers who were apoplectic when I declared from Afghanistan that Brigadier General Daniel Menard should be fired.  When I subsequently added General Stanley McChrystal to the list and called for him to be relieved, the criticism reached a crescendo.

Months later, Menard was relieved of command, charged with transgressions of military justice, based on a few comments that I published on Facebook.

President Obama then fired General McChrystal due to his own indiscretions.  I returned to Afghanistan at the personal invitation of General Petraeus.

Grisham can be persuasive.  He wasted no time contacting Soldiers attached to the combat unit that I embedded with, filling their heads with stories, some of which were believed by those who were dull enough.

Although I was giving positive ink to 4-4Cav, problems percolated from Civil Affairs (of all places) Soldiers that I had not yet met, and my subsequent total face time with them does not exceed five minutes.  Grisham had contacted members of the Civil Affairs unit attached to 4-4Cav, to rally them against my work.  Members of 4-4Cav and their families appreciated the dispatches and made me feel welcome, but the Civil Affairs tainted by Grisham became a problem.

Meanwhile, Grisham was a poster boy for Soldiers’ Angels, a charity organization that was later exposed funneling donations to a company partially owned by the son of the founder. Nepotism.

Grisham raised money for Soldiers’ Angels, and he persuaded them to join him in creating problems for me.  Collectively, they leaked over social media, and their activities gradually came into focus.

SA shared the same modus operandi with Grisham: when anyone posed an innocent question about their activities, the questions were not met with polite answers but were dismissed with aggressive public ridicule and ad hominem attacks.  Valid questions were never answered.

Donors were afraid to ask about the lavish parties thrown by SA, and the habit of a board member to misuse donations to fly his girlfriend to assignations.  The curious were beaten down and ridiculed.

The leadership of Soldiers’ Angels implemented a culture of fear.  Members were afraid to question their leadership, and to criticize it was to invite a tidal wave of ill.  Some members were afraid to leave the organization to join another.

There is nuance: SA is a vast organization, and members out on the tendrils who were doing important work may not have realized that at the core, SA was rotting.

Many folks will defend SA with their hearts, not realizing the charades and politics back at HQ.  Adding to confusion, unrelated organizations lifted the name “Soldiers’ Angels,” though are not related to the original group.

These details lead to misunderstandings.  When criticizing Soldiers’ Angels leadership, many people may believe offense is directed at them, when in reality the ridicule is limited to this group at HQ.

Initially the leadership of SA had its way, but when I left the war, there was time to research the charity and the subsequent revelations were devastating.  The organization today is collapsing.

In retrospect, they realize it would have been better to leave me alone in the war.

In 2011, while we both were in Afghanistan, Grisham made a not-so-veiled threat in writing that he would like to kill me.  I was accompanying combat missions in Zhari, while Grisham never left Kandahar Airfield (KAF) about twenty miles away.  KAF was the hub that I often passed through and sometimes lived on.

So now I needed to be watchful for IEDs, suicide bombers, enemy gunfire, green on blue attacks and US Soldiers in the rear, in the form of Grisham and his pals.  I had to worry about my back, so it was over.

The US Army should never leave senior NCOs in war zones carrying automatic weapons when they display signs of instability, and for the most part, this policy is observed.  Sometimes troops are disarmed, or the bolts are removed from their weapons, but many blue on blue murders in Iraq and Afghanistan still occurred.

Grisham complained on his blog and on Twitter of fear, stress, and mental issues while he was in Afghanistan, and the Army subsequently did the right thing and sent him home about halfway through his tour.

Grisham saw no combat in Afghanistan.  He publicly insists that he completed his tour there.  This is a lie.

Given my vulnerability to a defamation lawsuit, I would not dare write these words if they were untrue.  If any of my statements were unsupportable, Grisham and Soldiers’ Angels could crush me in a court of law.

It will never happen. Truth remains an affirmative defense, and they are all sufficiently public figures.  I lawyered up in advance of publishing the most perilous pieces.  We reviewed every word in detail, figuring that a lawsuit was inevitable.

Grisham boasts that he received a Bronze Star with V (valor) award for wiping out an Iraqi squad with only a grenade and a pistol.  In three years of embedding with units in combat, I have never seen such a feat, nor heard about anything comparable.

Why is this important?  Soldiers’ Angels siphons millions of dollars that could go someplace worthy, like Fisher House, and Grisham, despite his behavior, remains influential through his writings and podcasts.

He uses the Bronze Star medal and “PTSD” as credentials, and simultaneously wields both the medal and “PTSD” to shut down anyone who dares challenge his views.  He sometimes interacts with national media.

Grisham refuses to publish the narrative for his Bronze Star medal to support his claims.

Repeated FOIA requests return no evidence that Grisham ever engaged an Iraqi squad.  No one who served with Grisham has come forward to support his statements.  Where is his commander who submitted the story of wiping out an Iraqi squad?  Give us names, a date, a place.  If this occurred, he was out there with a unit and there would be plenty of witnesses.

Eventually, as so often happens, Grisham’s Bronze Star citation materialized:

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Unlike most Bronze Stars with V, which are appropriately granted for specific acts of valor under fire, Grisham’s does not cite a particular incident.

A typical Bronze Star with V cites a specific event, such as this: http://www.armywriter.com/bronze-star-medal-v-device.htm

Grisham’s is a strange citation for someone alleging that they single-handedly wiped out an Iraqi squad. The omission reeks of a scam.

Grisham’s medal is an attaboy, a “Thank you for coming to the war” award, issued for the period 20 March to 30 April.  The Army issues these like confetti during a Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade.

Yet Grisham unleashed an advertising blitz. In 2009 the Army Times interviewed Grisham and published:

“…during the invasion of Iraq, Grisham took down a squad of Iraqis when his counterintelligence detachment got pinned down in an ambush. He earned the Bronze Star with ‘V’ after rushing through the gunfire by himself with just a 9mm pistol and a hand grenade.”

If true, Grisham should have received a Silver Star, and knowing Army Public Affairs, they would have run this up the flagpole.

Nowhere in Grisham’s records that have been released through FOIA is there any mention of this alleged action. No eyewitnesses have stepped forward to confirm his claims.

It appears that Grisham duped Army Times staff writer Jon R. Andersen, who despite my repeated efforts to seek clarification, also refuses to provide evidence for the claim, thus jeopardizing the credibility of Army Times.

Andersen and Army Times appear to be carrying Grisham’s water in what amounts to a case of Stolen Valor.

Gannett, which owns Army Times, can clear this up by publishing the documentation that allowed Army Times to print that account of Grisham’s actions.

One might believe that Soldiers who have been to war have no reason to engage in Stolen Valor, yet even otherwise admirable soldiers often embellish their pedigrees.

A Command Sergeant Major of FORSCOM engaged in Stolen Valor when he lied about being a POW. Those who are interested can Google the perplexing case of CSM Richard Cayton.

Admiral Jeremy Michael Boorda was Chief of Naval Operations when he was called out for wearing an unauthorized “V” device for valor.  He committed suicide.  Shot himself in the chest.

By many accounts Admiral Boorda was a great officer.  I have seen people talking about him in private circles, people who knew him well, who said he deserved the “V”, but it was not authorized.

Such cases erupt so often that the Ford Motor Company could learn something from the Stolen Valor assembly line.

img003Army General pins Jessica with award known to be fraudulent.

Jessica Lynch was awarded a Bronze Star with V, while assigned to the same Division during the same timeframe as Grisham.

Jessica was described as bravely fighting back the enemy during an ambush, but she later stated that she never fired her weapon and that she was unconscious during the engagement.

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Jessica honorably asserted that she did not deserve the award.

This was during the beginning of the Iraq campaign when the number of medals being handed out practically threatened a bronze shortage.

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Such cases illustrate the difference between Stolen Valor and Counterfeit Valor.

When Ranger Pat Tillman was killed by fratricide by other US Rangers, it was distressing, and embarrassing.

Pat Tillman turned down a multi-million-dollar NFL contract to serve his country.  In return, our own men shot him, and then his command manufactured a coverup.  There was no enemy around.  The shooting was done by Tillman’s own unit:

From Pat’s Silver Star narrative:

“Caught between the crossfire of an enemy near ambush, Corporal Tillman put himself in the line of devastating enemy fire as he maneuvered his fire team to a covered position from which they could effectively employ their weapons on known enemy positions. His audacious leadership and courageous example under fire inspired his men to fight at great risk to their own personal safety, resulting in the enemy’s withdrawal, his platoon’s safe passage from the ambush kill zone, and his mortal wound. Corporal Tillman’s personal courage, tactical expertise, and professional competence directly contributed to his platoon’s overall success and survival. In making the ultimate sacrifice for his team and platoon, Corporal Patrick D. Tillman reflected great credit upon himself, the Joint Task Force, and the United States Army.”

This palliative, keep-your-mouth-shut medal, though completely counterfeit, was endorsed by General Stanley McChrystal himself, who later warned President Bush that it was fake: the truth was leaking, muddying the water of lies.

Later, the three-star General McChrystal received a fourth star. When I encountered his bullshit in Afghanistan, I bucked the prevailing winds and I asserted that he should be fired.  This was severly damaging to me, but that is fine.

Jessica and Pat were both cases of Counterfeit Valor, where their imaginary actions were manufactured for public relations.  The awards were administratively real.

These were not cases of Stolen Valor.  The recipients did not carry the bucket of public relations lies.  Jessica debunked them.  Pat was dead.  The Rangers in his platoon spoke for him.

Had Jessica fallen in line and kept her mouth shut, we might never have known.  How many times has this happened?

Counterfeit Valor cases can be difficult to prove because they are often included in official records.  Witting officials already have lied about them.

It is no secret that some commanders submit medals to cover their own poor performance, or to disguise embarrassment, or as favor.

Most saddening is that I have been with numerous battalions where nearly everyone in the battalion deserved at least a Bronze Star with V.

Deuce Four in Iraq is a fine example.  Even most of the TOC-jocks went on hairy combat missions.  This battalion, and others, such as 4-4Cav, 2-7Cav, 1-6FA, 1-4INF, and most of the 1st and 5th Styrker Brigades, Pedro, Dustoff, all those excellent British infantrymen, deserved nearly blanket Bronze Stars with V, or equivalent.  The British Soldiers deserved it just for showing up to work in Basra and Sangin.

In many of the units I wrote about, the hard part would not be in figuring out who deserved the award, but who did not.  My friends from all of these units do not brag about all the war they waded through.

Stolen Valor cases are often exposed when the perpetrator is immodest. As the tales unfold, the perpetrator displays typical behaviors:

1)    Attention is garnered because he (sometimes she) is boastful, or because perpetrators exploit credentials for gain or fame. Such decorations are abused to support VA claims for PTSD, for example.

2)    When confronted, Stolen Valor perpetrators typically refuse to provide documentation, saying they are above it.  A corollary to this behavior is the claim that “records are classified.”

In practice, this is rarely true. When the “classified records” card is played, assume that the claim is fraudulent until proven true.

In the perhaps 1% of cases where the statement is factual, there are mechanisms that the VA can employ to verify them.

3)    The person under scrutiny is uncooperative, makes counteraccusations and unleashes ad hominem attacks, claiming that investigators are on a witch hunt.  (Sometimes they are.)  This deflection is common. In all cases, releasing pertinent documentation could make the dispute vanish and exonerate the accused.  But since the accused is guilty, he digs in.

4)    FOIA requests to the National Personnel Records Center return no supporting documents, upon which the accused indicts the military for poor record-keeping (which is sometimes shoddy), while still refusing to provide documentation themselves.

5)    They threaten lawsuits, and they sometimes actually file suit, but they lose.  I watched a recent case closely.

A lawyer named John Giduck claimed special operations expertise in his background biographies for speaking engagements and in his books, and he made big money presenting seminars to law enforcement agencies around the country.  After the speaking tour begins, it becomes its own credential and often nobody checks the original man.

Giduck made outlandish claims and was exposed as a fraud, yet he sued real special operations veterans for telling the truth.

Sadly, a few credentialed members of the special operations community vouched for Giduck, and a famous and influential author sent me a long email in support of John Giduck.

People such as Giduck can be difficult to expose even when the glove fits.  When they have strong social support from credentialed people, and when the house of cards is discovered, sometimes the supporters dig in with the accused because they are embarrassed, or because they have personal interest in ensuring that his credentials not be shattered.  This creates a fog of confusion.  Using counteraccusations, even a guilty party can come out on top.

This dynamic in the Giduck case caused a rift within the special operations community.  A small number of corrupt diehards defended Giduck, though most of his allies fell silent.

The majority called out Giduck, and then Giduck sued nearly 50 people.  Giduck lost his case, and was ordered by the judge to pay the attorney fees of those he had sued.

Giduck so far has refused to pay, so the defendants have placed liens on his real property. Other defendants have filed a countersuit. The case continues.  I continue to watch with interest as motions fly.

6)   Some, when cornered, finally confess to fraud, while others carry the stink to the grave, even when everyone sees through.  Giduck is still dug in like a tick on a hounddog.

Both the Special Operations Association and the Special Forces Association repudiated him, but Giduck insists that he is the victim of a “global criminal conspiracy to destroy his business.”  He still has defenders.

7)    Some appear to truly believe that they performed the actions that they claim, even when their claims are definitively disproven.  They seem prone to self-delusion.

Powerful contrary evidence can include proof that they were not in-country, for example, or that they were assigned to a different unit, or that they never served in the military.

These cases unfold frequently.  Some people probably believe they are Jesus, but others latch onto the military.  Perhaps they are not lying in the moral sense because they seem to believe it, just as some people believe they are sorcerers or vampires.

Given Grisham’s refusal to provide supporting documents, the repeated FOIAs that returned no evidence, his frequent boasting about the medal, his constant ad hominem counterattacks along with perpetual threats of lawsuits, and the vanishing possibility that he is Rambo enough to wipe out an Iraqi squad with a grenade and 9mm pistol, a reasonable man can conclude that it is probable that Grisham is lying.

Grisham does not owe explanation to me, but he owes it to you, and to the public at large, and he owes it to those whom he asks for money.

He owes explanation to the Gannett Corporation and to Army Times staff writer Jon R. Andersen, whose credibility is jeopardized.

Gannett and the Army Times have an obligation to subscribers, to readers, and to advertisers to come clean.

If Grisham duped the Army Times, fine.  It happens to the best of us.  Come clean.  We will get over it quickly.

But if Gannett and the Army Times aids and abets Stolen Valor or disrespects readers by failing to confirm that it has legitimate evidence, it undermines its own credibility and legitimacy.

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+22 # RE: Stalking Soldier Arrested, Disarmed by Texas Police: Some facts, opinion, and analysisChrish 2013-03-28 14:59
Here is hoping this guy gets some sort of help. This 'hike' with his adolescent son is frightening.

I remain amazed a how brazenly people will use bullying tactics on line to push their opinions. I've never seen that approach work to engage in healthy debate. Somehow this sort of behavior has become acceptable on-line, over the airwaves and even in public.

Thank you for a well reasoned presentation. I hope Grisham gets the help he needs before there is another tragedy.
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+2 # No terms will be accepted...wolfman 2013-03-29 21:56
But, all the help in the world won't do Mr Grisham any good until (if) he immediately and unconditionally accepts the truth that his behavior is WRONG! Somewhere in the mix there's always a choice, and the choice that he made was wrong. Until (if) he accepts that truth, he is truly unreachable.

But consequences have a remarkable ability to get people (including myself) to reconsider their ways.
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+1 # MSgt USAF (Ret)Willik 2013-04-01 19:20
I cannot fell 'sorry' for this guy or those around him that perpetrate/cond one like actions.
He and his like should be stripped of rank then given BCDs sans retirement pay that the rest of us, in part, have to pay.
He/they are NOT deserving the largess for their disgraced service.
The blazes with the touchy-feely PC of providing 'help,' They are not deserving as so many are whom I've seen and supported in other venues. (DAV, Wounded Warriors, et. al.)
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-31 # RE: Stalking Soldier Arrested, Disarmed by Texas Police: Some facts, opinion, and analysisBee 2013-03-28 15:45
And you obtained the information in your opening statement by stalking him, correct?
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+18 # RE: Stalking Soldier Arrested, Disarmed by Texas Police: Some facts, opinion, and analysisRonin 2013-03-28 16:26
In this case I would call it investigative journalism.
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+1 # A bit uncomfortable with the truthleyla 2013-03-28 17:16
Well isn't your nose out of joint. Does something in this post ring a bell or get at the truth which makes you uncomfortable?? ?
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-1 # Bizzy Little Bee...SunTzu 2013-03-28 18:23
Quoting Bee:
And you obtained the information in your opening statement by stalking him, correct?

Who are thee in reality :-*

Just looking at the opening self published photo of this article speaks volumes to the mental state of this "character" :eek:

This character resembles vaguely a Hollyweird fantasy we have seen violently acted out so very recently, however induced, this is another nut waiting to crack :o

If he was acting out his fantasies alone in a "bubble mentality" that would be just one RED FLAG to any "competent" authorities over this mans behavior, BUT involving his 15 yo son is RED FLAG 2, 3, 4, 5... :sad:

I am a huge proponent of the "literal" (not the lawyers) interpretation of the 2nd Amendment, BUT CJ is a NUT, who has no business being around or in possession of ANY firearms or dangerous weapons, PERIOD! :eek:

He does a huge disservice to firearms owners and those in the business, he is doing more harm than good and is now probably going to become the poster boy for the fear and paranoia rhetoric of the anti-gunner forcers trying to subvert and twist the Constitution into an irrelevant document, which thay have done a pretty good job of so far! :-?

The first post asks that CJ Grisham gets help, BUT CJ is NOT an isolated case as this article bears out, I ask that AMerica gets some help as this kind of behavior is becoming pandemic while "mainstream society" seems to be apathetic and "tabloid numb" :-?

SHABBAT SHALOM 8)
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+13 # sleepymonkeyhollie 2013-03-28 16:02
Makes me sick all the bronze stars "awarded". I KNOW what my husband did to earn his bronze star w/ V device. He is 3rd Group, SF. He has been in 16 years and just made E8. He is an exceptional soldier.
And I remember having lunch with you a few times, Michael, while I contracted in Iraq back in 2005, in Mosul. You were with the striker Bde. You do good work, Mike. Keep it up.
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+12 # Vietnam Combat Vet. & Rescue Firefighter, Retired.Leland G. Hancock 2013-03-28 16:02
I truly appreciate your Truthful Journalism. I will be sharing your message. In the Name of JESUS CHRIST, I wish you Safety and many Blessings from Our CREATOR, Amen.
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# RE: Stalking Soldier Arrested, Disarmed by Texas Police: Some facts, opinion, and analysisironargonaut 2013-03-28 16:22
Will you quit publishing the lie that it was the military that emblished the Jessica Lynch story. It was the NY Times reporter who was FIRED after publishing the lie after having NEVER even traveled to the state he claimed to have done the interviews from. The media then parroted the claim because it sold papers. When Jessica contradicted it, they blamed unnamed military sources to cover themselves. You keep repeating their lies.
I just read the Jessica Lynch citation no where does it state "bravely fighting back". You speak of honesty and ridicule the Army Times for failure to do due deligence yet you commit the same error. Took me 20seconds to find the citation. It reads much the same as Grisham's.

Awarded for actions during the Global War on Terror
The President of the United States of America, Authorized by Executive Order 11046, 24 August 1962, takes pleasure in presenting the Bronze Star Medal with Combat "V" to Private First Class Jessica D. Lynch, United States Army, for exemplary courage under fire during combat operations to liberate Iraq, while serving with the 507th Maintenance Company, 5th Battalion, 52d Air Defense Artillery, 3d Infantry Division, in support of Operation IRAQI FREEDOM. Private First Class Lynch's bravery and heart persevered while surviving the ambush and captivity in An Nasiriya. Private First Class Lynch's belief in the Battalion's Motto "One Team, One Fight" is in keeping with the finest traditions of military service. Her honor, courage and dedication reflect great credit upon herself, 507th Maintenance Company, 3d Infantry Division, Victory Corps, and the United States Army.
Bash the military when they deserve it, it will keep'em honest. But, don't be a dupe for the mainstream press. Will you correct you errors?
By the way I don't disagree with you assessment of Grisham.
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+3 # jessica was unconsiciousPeter 2013-03-28 17:01
Jessica per her own words was unconscious shortly after the attack. I don't think she should have been given any award, and she has said so herself. I think Grisham has undiagnosed Schizophrenia. I think Grisham put is 15 yo son in danger!
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+6 # RE: jessica was unconsiciousironargonaut 2013-03-28 18:08
I think she deserves the POW medal and I think she exemplified integrity by not BS'ing about what happened. So, I do thing she deserves an award, but maybe not the bronze star.
As I said, I don't disagree with Michael's assesment of Grisham.
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-5 # RE: jessica was unconsiciousNicki 2013-04-06 18:27
Quoting Peter:
Jessica per her own words was unconscious shortly after the attack. I don't think she should have been given any award, and she has said so herself. I think Grisham has undiagnosed Schizophrenia. I think Grisham put is 15 yo son in danger!


Your first mistaken claim is that you think.
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+4 # FalseMichael Yon Author 2013-03-28 18:17
Yes, there is nuance in the Jessica's story, but there is no escaping the fact that a General is in that image pinning medals and that the citation was issued but the Army, not by the New York Times of by Congress.
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# RE: Falseironargonaut 2013-03-28 20:35
Thank you for responding.
Agreed, however, in your narrative you claim "Jessica and Pat were both cases of Counterfeit Valor, where their imaginary actions were manufactured for public relations." So, what "imaginary action" is listed in the citation for the medal the general is pinning on? It is difinitely not for fighting back. The citation is the official reason, not some rumor made up by the press that took on a life of it's own. If her "imaginary actions" were manufactured by the NY Times and not by the Army as you clearly imply, does that not preclude it from being held up as an example of Army malfeasance? I remember watching the military press conferences, and I don't recall the military ever officially stating she fought back. It was always "unnamed" military sources, of which some were proven to not have existed.
I've heard of purple hearts issued in Vietnam for getting your ribs crushed between the boat and the dock after falling there because you were drunk; which dimishes those who have recieved them properly. And, I whole heartedly agree Pat Tilman's honorable service was tarnished by the military coverup and you are absolutely right to call the military out on it.
If your agrument is she recieved the award partially for PR purposes, I might agree, except for that Grisham's award does not even list a specific attack, and I doubt the military has gotten a lot of good PR out of it.
Sorry, for being a bit obstinate, I am a bit of a news junkie and am ever so tired of the mainstream media constantly reguritating lies. I follow you because you frankly call'em as you see'em. And, generally have been proven correct.
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+7 # The truth wll outlast us allTheOldMan 2013-03-28 16:30
Eventually, and that may be a very long time coming, the truth will prevail. In the end, the only thing that you really own is your integrity. Once you sell that, you become an empty shell who has to run faster and faster just to stay slightly ahead of reality.
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# Old Reasons...SunTzu 2013-03-28 19:12
My PapaB warned me not to mess with old men and women, when I was young, he said there was a reason old people become old, because they are, for the most part, either lucky or fighters, I put my money on the fighters 8)

GooD Day 8)
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+2 # RE: Stalking Soldier Arrested, Disarmed by Texas Police: Some facts, opinion, and analysisPat 2013-03-28 16:50
This guy doesn't deserve to be a Texan for all his crazy antics. The NYT pumped up Jessica's story and the Army followed suit with the award. But that's a story for another day. Reminds me of LBJ's Navy Cross for a mission where his plane turned back before every reaching the target. I suspect it was awarded because he was a Congressman.
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+2 # RE: Stalking Soldier Arrested, Disarmed by Texas Police: Some facts, opinion, and analysisSunTzu 2013-03-28 18:41
Quoting Pat:
This guy doesn't deserve to be a Texan for all his crazy antics.


If I was a Temple, TX (beautiful area BTW) resident I would be concerned about being in the vicinity of this character :o

Thanks for satellite mapping his 10/20 8)
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+3 # well thooght outPeter 2013-03-28 17:03
2000 words. Well thought out. Its hard to take on a lunatic. As I said before, you should go to law school.
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+7 # ContractorDale M 2013-03-28 17:12
This guy looks like a complete idiot. He has a bayonet on a pistol, which says it all about the man.

Keep you chin up Michael!!
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+4 # Great Readleyla 2013-03-28 17:14
Well said and thank you for the education on this particular issue. I learn something from you every post.

Learning what can happen from dishonesty is a good lesson for everyone to remember and learn from.
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+5 # US Navy 63-67Ken 2013-03-28 17:43
Great piece Michael, I fear we have not heard the end of this on the down side. Keep up the good and needed work...

Ken
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+3 # Better in Texas?bendaco 2013-03-28 17:56
Always thought I'd like to live in Texas, but now I'm not so sure.....
Great writing!
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+2 # RE: Better in Texas?SunTzu 2013-03-28 19:00
Quoting bendaco:
Always thought I'd like to live in Texas, but now I'm not so sure.....
Great writing!


Don't let just one NUT dissuade you from living in Tejas, we have 1000's more just like him right here in the Houston area, Dallas/Forth Worth, who knows, El Paso, FORGETABOUTIT :P
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+5 # RE: Stalking Soldier Arrested, Disarmed by Texas Police: Some facts, opinion, and analysisLT 2013-03-28 18:06
What an AMAZING article, Michael. Wow - great job here.
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+1 # RE: Stalking Soldier Arrested, Disarmed by Texas Police: Some facts, opinion, and analysisTraci Wilberger 2013-03-28 18:21
@ironargonaut.. .. Didn't see where Mr Yon said "bravely fighting back" was on the citation...Mayb e you perceived it was implied? Just saying...
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+1 # RE: Stalking Soldier Arrested, Disarmed by Texas Police: Some facts, opinion, and analysisironargonaut 2013-03-28 20:40
It is directly above the NY Times article. Long article easily missed.
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+2 # Reading comprehensionMichael Yon Author 2013-03-28 19:12
Traci -- it appears to be a reading comprehension issue. He might not understand that the lack of quotation marks is all that is needed to convey the information accurately without being longwinded.
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+1 # RE: Reading comprehensionironargonaut 2013-03-28 20:50
same thing I told Traci, directly above the NY Times article, and is a direct quote from the article therefore is in quotation marks.
To do another direct qoute "the questions were not met with polite answers but were dismissed with aggressive public ridicule and ad hominem attacks"; You mean like stating "it appears to be a reading comprehension issue". You see ize kan red jus fine and my memory isn't so bad as I can't recall you decrying the same tactic you just used.
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+3 # ArmyMichael Yon Author 2013-03-28 20:58
Irongargonaut --

At the end of the day, an Army General pinned the medal and is in the photograph doing so. There is no way around that. If the NYT and some Congressman (or whatever) mechanism wants to pin the medal, the US Army should have said "Do it yourself."

And that was a reading comprehension issue, or perhaps you just missed it. I understand, easy to do, no ad hominem or ill will. There simply is no way to sidestep that an Army General pinned the medal, which makes it his personal and military endorsement.
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+2 # need to look again ironMark T 2013-03-29 00:55
Quoting ironargonaut:
same thing I told Traci, directly above the NY Times article, and is a direct quote from the article therefore is in quotation marks.
To do another direct qoute "the questions were not met with polite answers but were dismissed with aggressive public ridicule and ad hominem attacks"; You mean like stating "it appears to be a reading comprehension issue". You see ize kan red jus fine and my memory isn't so bad as I can't recall you decrying the same tactic you just used.

If you look at the article he stated that she was described as bravely fighting back and indeed in the news article it says "reports circulated by the military". he never said it was in the citation that I have seen.
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+3 # Not ad hominemMichael Yon Author 2013-03-29 05:18
Ironargonaut,

That is not ad hominem. Pointing our a reading comprehension error is face value. Ad hominem would be something as, "He is uneducated, never learned to read, and in any case is too dumb to open a door. He's a known meth user who voted for..." Ad hominem takes the discussion away from the original discussion. The discussion was about a sentence that I wrote, which you seized upon in error. Any case, certainly no ill will, but you did in fact read that in error, which all of us do at times.

Ad hominem attacks generally jump off the page and are flatly obvious. More like getting punched in the nose than a papercut.
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+3 # Wow.CG 2013-03-28 19:16
Nice article Michael.

It is very disturbing that someone who was an officer in a counterintellig ence unit was publicly broadcasting so much about his military clearances, his own personal problems and insecurities, and publicizing himself in general.

As you point out, he put so much out there about himself, it wouldn't be too difficult for someone to figure out how to manipulate him, and he also gave them plenty of reason to want to manipulate him by publicly talking about his security clearance.

Given that all that WAS very public, how did his superiors and other fellow counterintellig ence officers not notice that and not try to get him moved somewhere that wouldn't be as critical if he was compromised?
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+4 # Didn't realize that he's close byDavid Gifford, MD 2013-03-28 19:34
Mike,
Article well thought through and detailed. The initial photo reminds me of Jared Loughner's photo--exemplif ies dangerous insanity. I have read locally about the arrest event, which sounded very strange since none in my experience accompany Boy Scouts on merit badge or other activities while armed (Both sons Eagle Scouts). Alarming to me is that he's practically a next door neighbor to us here in Killee/Fort Hood. If he's still on AD in a Warrior Transition unit his chain of command can/ought to demand that his weapons be kept locked up on Post while this is investigated.
David
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+4 # RE: Stalking Soldier Arrested, Disarmed by Texas Police: Some facts, opinion, and analysisBarbara 2013-03-28 19:36
Now that's interesting. CJG goes on a father-son "Eagle Scout walk" sporting a loaded AR-15 in city limits on a 4-lane highway, and JUST HAPPENS to have a video camera with him.

This was all planned very carefully. It was a publicity stunt and photo op. Pathetic to involve his own son, and let him see his father get arrested. Reminds me of the "balloon boy" father. Anything for attention.
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-2 # RE: Stalking Soldier Arrested, Disarmed by Texas Police: Some facts, opinion, and analysiswoodNfish 2013-03-28 19:51
"...the Army is well known for Counterfeit Valor."

It isn't just the army and it isn't something new. Remember the group of soldiers that raised the flag on Iwa Jima? Much of that was a lie too, but great PR.

And Bradley Manning is a hero and a martyr acting against a criminal US government.
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+5 # woodNfish, are you for real?JesseB 2013-03-28 21:44
Quote:
"...the Army is well known for Counterfeit Valor."

It isn't just the army and it isn't something new. Remember the group of soldiers that raised the flag on Iwa Jima? Much of that was a lie too, but great PR.

And Bradley Manning is a hero and a martyr acting against a criminal US government.
You're being facetious right?

Nothing about the Iwo Flag Raising was counterfeit as Joe Rosenthal would tell you. They were Marines not soldiers. Bradley Manning is a pathetic little creep who deserves to spend a long time behind bars.

Good report Michael. I occasionally check CJG's web presence when I read about him but his self serving BS turns my stomach.

Here's the thing, if you carry a weapon openly and Law Enforcement asks for your weapon while they are doing their background checks it is a legitimate law enforcement action. The Supreme Court has ruled on this. They cannot just randomly stop you and demand you surrender any concealed weapons without probable cause. Openly carrying an AR and then being confrontational when LE tries to find out if you're legit then LE is right to confiscate his weapons and place him under arrest. This is what we pay them for! Good Christ, are we supposed to let people like this run around openly armed and not do something? ISn't that what the NRA and 2nd Amendment advocates (such as myself) are demanding? Get the crazies off the streets or at least the weapons out of their hands?

I suspect that CJG is a sociopath. They are adept at walking the line, often appearing perfectly normal and even helpful and charming. Something akin to Hannibal Lector lurks underneath though and unless they cross the line they can get away with their act for a long time. I think he crossed the line this time and will not get off. He will play the PTSD card very publicly and may even drag you into the mess as someone who harrased and stalked him. He claims you posted 500 harrassing comments on his pathetic Indiegogo site which he had to delete. If that were true then why delete them? Why not leave them up for poeple to see as proof you are harrassing him? Because like the rest of his claims it's all bullshit. I'm sure you have better things to do in Chang Mai then post 500 comments on his pathetic website - like flirting with beautiful Thai Women!

Ciao my friend and Semper Fi.

Jesse
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+4 # RE: woodNfish, are you for real?CB 2013-03-28 23:19
Regrettably, I doubt Mr. woodNfish was being facetious. Manning's leftist, anti-military supporters are drumming up support for the little traitor in advance of his upcoming trial.
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# RE: woodNfish, are you for real?woodNfish 2013-03-29 02:10
I'm not anti-military CB. But I am against military adventurism, interference in other sovereign nations' business, getting involved in civil wars that are none of our business, etc. And I am against the military industrial complex just as Eisenhower was. Why are we sacrificing our soldiers lives on worthless scum around the world? Good men killed and maimed physically and mentally. What a waste. This is a sick country.
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-2 # RE: woodNfish, are you for real?woodNfish 2013-03-29 02:12
Oh, and I'm no [censored] leftist commie POS either. I'm a libertarian.
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-2 # RE: woodNfish, are you for real?woodNfish 2013-03-29 00:35
Soldiers is generic, Jesse and encompasses any member of any military.

Yes I know the original flag raising on Iwa Jima was real, but the staged PR raising was not.

And no, I am serious about Manning. He has sacrificed everything to expose our corrupt government. He is a hero.
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+4 # Term SoldiersMichael Yon Author 2013-03-29 06:42
WoonNFish,

The term "Soldier" in the US military is strictly Army. Nobody else.

In other militaries, such as British, it can be more generic.
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# RE: Term SoldierswoodNfish 2013-04-01 16:43
Okay. Thank you Michael. I am a civilian and they are all soldiers to me. I don't expect the term makes much difference to anyone who has never been in the military or is no longer in the military.
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+1 # RE: woodNfish, are you for real?Copin 2013-08-11 20:12
You are wrong on the right of police to confiscate a citizen's weapon. There must be reasonable suspicion of a crime. Open carry is legal in Texas. Temple police answered a call and they illegally seized CJG's weapon,then illegally detained and arrested him. The police dispatchers need to ask what the open carry individuals are doing to cause concern, I.e. brandishing or pointing the weapon, actually shooting the weapon. If we do not use our rights we will lose them!
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+1 # Tx PC 42.01(a)(8)CoryKarp 2013-09-19 18:20
You would be correct, but they did have reasonable suspicion for an investigatory detention. Not only did the Temple police receive a call of concern from a member of the general public regarding CJ Grisham's manner of carry. The responding officer was also troubled by it. In Texas under the Penal Code, "Disorderly Conduct" specifically [Texas Penal Code 42.01(a)(8)] it is illegal to carry or display a firearm or offensive weapon in a manner calculated to cause alarm. Remember, in this context, Calculated does not mean "intended".

CJ Grisham was disarmed as part of a legal investigatory detention, (Terry stop) where an officer has the authority to disarm an individual and do a "pat down", they do not need to ask permission, or seek assistance from the subject to do so. CJ Grisham was being investigated for a possible crime. Cj Grisham was never charged for that crime, but his actions during the investigation did lead to a charge of Resisting, later changed to a more appropriate charge of interfering [Texas Penal Code 38.15(a)(1)] for his actions during the investigatory detainment. As such, this is not a second amendment issue at all, but rather a gun fondling nut behaving badly, biting off more than he could chew, and throwing a temper tantrum about it.

Texas Law does not require a person to "brandish" the firearm to be charged for carrying or displaying in a manner calculated to cause alarm, no case law has established this either. It was not the carry that got CJ Grisham detained, but rather the manner of carry. The detainment was not a violation of his rights, 2nd amendment or other, and if he had cooperated rather than throw a temper tantrum for questioning his obvious "exceptional citizen" status, he would likely have been on his way in mere minutes, but that is likely not what he wanted, he wanted the confrontation, he wanted the video, he wanted the manufactured outrages about his active duty/vet status, and his eagle scout.. er.. son.

His arrest is not a 2nd amendment issue at all, CJ Grisham has proven himself to be a concern, and as I write this, more information is flowing out about Aaron Alexis, the Washington Naval Yard shooter who took 13 lives including his own a couple days ago. His story bears an eerie resemblance to CJ Grisham's.
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+5 # nobodyPete Flynn 2013-03-29 12:31
Great article Mike!
I had heard about the Grisham incident but didn't put 2+2 as him being the guy you had written about.
He's deranged, plain and simple. A threat to the well-being of anyone unlucky enough to be around him.
IMO these ultra-right/ult ra-left wack-jobs bring nothing to the table but grief. They provide no solutions and only provide complications.
Keep up the good work!
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+2 # Texas Open Carry LawsJesseB 2013-03-29 19:40
Texas is not a traditional open carry state. They also do not allow open carry, or even printing, by those who have a concealed carry permit.

Opencarry.org

So it appears that CJ Grisham is on very shaky ground especially if he claims to have a CC permit.

Texas residents, what say you? It does not appear that HB700 is going to get voted on this year.
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+3 # bobnlynRobert E Hall 2013-08-02 21:23
The 'open carry' law pertains to hand held fire arms, not long guns. Texas has 'concealed carry 'laws, which means properly trained and permitted carry, and the firearm must be covered.
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+5 # It may depend on his intent...CliffordBRD 2013-03-30 20:04
Under Texas law: § 42.01. DISORDERLY CONDUCT. (a) A person commits an
offense if he intentionally or knowingly:
(8) displays a firearm or other deadly weapon in a public place in a manner calculated to alarm;

This combined with the fact that Texas is NOT an open carry state may have give the police officer the resonable suspicion that necessitated an investigation.

I wonder if he got a lawyer's opinion before doing this? Just reading what's on the internet would be foolish.

I would be the first person to support his right to open carry and not have the police harrass him IF Texas was an open carry state, but this case does not appear to be so black and white.
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+4 # Bronze starsSgt B 2013-03-31 05:07
In 03 everyone with the rank of E-7 and above received a bronze star. One medevac crew landed in a hot LZ. The E-6 and two pilots got a bronze star with valor. The E-4 got an ARCOM. My friend that died, got a bronze star. Now me and 3 other soldiers were attached to the USMC, we were Army. Us four were the only ones to drive from Kuwait to Baghdad, taking enemy fire, and I as the NCOIC, had to write my own award, write the other three, which I had no problem with, and I got an ARCOM and the others got AAM's. By no means am I saying I or we deserve a bronze star, we did or duty to the best of our ability without loss of life or equipment, but it's total bullshit that the officers that flew part way into Iraq but had their ass planted in Kuwait got bronze stars. I wish all the bronze stars given would be investigated.
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# RE: Stalking Soldier Arrested, Disarmed by Texas Police: Some facts, opinion, and analysisYanshuf 2013-04-01 16:43
Michael,
A incredible story and I am glad your ok.

Israel gives out very few medals relating to valor ever.
Current chief of staff has none. Yet one unit he did commands reason d'être is to serve behind enemy lines. Rumor has it they practice there when there are no active hostilities. And are likely in Syria now keeping visual watch on Syrian chemical weapons.

For some odd reason I would like to leave a story here of someone who was the opposite of a heroe. And how a small country has dealt with it. Making a huge sacrifice to return a pow who by his own account was a coward. Please note he was awarded promotions for time served in rank,while imprisoned by Hamas in Gaza.

http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Gilad-Schalits-capture-In-his-own-words-308015
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+4 # The Truth Shall Set You FreeF Thomas 2013-04-01 20:01
Michael

Following you over the years I have found you to be nothing short of incredibly forthright and honest!

Eventually, as in this situation with an unstable person both in the theatre of operations and once back State Side the truth has been revealed.

Seek the truth and the truth shall set you free. I sincerely pray that Michael is now free of this distracting and dangerous person and that the truth has indeed set Michael free.

Thank you for all of your dispatches and a sincere interest in reporting the truth! Job well done Michael! Thank you! You have been the only reliable source of what really was going on at the front. You have my gratitude and respect and I'm sure the same from all of your supporters. I am particularly thankful that you exposed the failure to properly utilize DustOff helicopters in support of our troops.

Again, thank you for the TRUTH!
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+2 # ThanskMEL 2013-04-04 03:04
Great read. He is a nut.
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+2 # stay safezeenie 2013-04-05 10:26
We should stick with what we know best, and in this case, your response to this guy is commendable in its measured and clear statements.
Stay safe and keep telling it like it is.
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+1 # Grisham is a hypocriteSmokeEmOut 2013-04-07 16:43
I've posted a few comments to CJ Grishams blog A Soldiers Perspectve under his post "Michael Yon Integrity Check" here's the link: http://asp.militarygear.com/2013/04/04/michael-yon-integrity-check/

CJ claims to champion Constitutional Rights, but it's more accurate to state that CJ is all about championing HIS Constitutional Rights. He deletes any post critical of his "Perspective". I know it's his blog, but as a self descibided Constitutionali st, what happened to First Ammendment Right to Freedom of Speech. Oh my bad, on CJ's blog I only have that right when I agree with him.

Here a copies of comments CJ deleted from his blog:

Wow, just wow CJ, It wasn’t “your CoC who submitted BSM w/ V, it was the Tank Company CO” and your leadership had to somehow condense your ‘heroics’ into your ‘impact deployment award’…because they must have run out of paper, printers and ink cartridges, just like you ran out of bullets and needed that enemy AK to complete the mission.

Wasn’t the taking of war trophies from the Iraqi battlefield taboo? I know several Soldiers who got fried for taking AK’s as war trophies. How did you, a then SSG, get the first General Officer in your CoC, to sign off on your “heroic AK” as suitable for preservation as a museum piece for shipment back to the states? Can you provide that documentation, as well???

Admit it guy, you were hooked up with a BSM w/V, like quite a few of your peers at that time. It helped your selection to SFC, didn’t it? Hence the hook up award. If your so called “heroics” are listed in your NCOER… Post it. Prove everyone wrong.

But you can’t…. The NCOER is all about duty performance, and is NOT the document to laud a Soldiers “heroics”. That document is the DA 638. Could you post that one, to include the award number, so that accuracy can be verified? Probably not.

Face it Crusader John, you’re a fraud. Not a stolen valor case, but a fraud none the less.
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+3 # Grisham is a Hypocrite Pt2SmokeEmOut 2013-04-07 17:08
Here's another comment CJ Deleted from his blog at:

http://asp.militarygear.com/2013/04/04/michael-yon-integrity-check/

CJ, you state, “The more talented troops with PTSD actually deal with their diagnoses by CREATING music. Guys like Mylon English of 7 Years Today…”

Umm no, Mylon English has got a great big substance abuse issue. He Definitely DOES NOT have the PTSD. Unless you’re suggesting Crusader John, that maybe Mylon caught a small case of the PTSD when he was chaptered out of the Army for pissing hot (cocaine, MDMH, marijuana) and a Pattern of Misconduct. Mylon was command directed to participate in ASAP, Mylon was then caught wearing a piss bag and tubing during another urinalysis attempting to substitute somebody’s drug free urine for his own. Mylon was a 68A medical equipment repair technician, serving in B Co, 21st Combat Support Hospital at the time of his OTH discharge. He never deployed in his short (three years) less than honorable service in the US Army. All that extra duty prior to his ass being kicked out, maybe might have given Mylon a small case of the PTSD, but I doubt it.

So Crusader John, way to pick that
example of a fine former Soldier to support your views on PTSD. Most of those Soldiers I know who have been separated or medically retired due to their Very Real PTSD diagnoses, wouldn’t agree with you that loud, crowd pact rock concerts are in anyway therapeutic, let alone fun in anyway. You must be as high as Mylon.

And finally I commented on his wild fairy tale claim that in CJ's words that:

"the intelligence gathered from my team that resulted in the capture or kill of eight of the top 55 high value targets (deck of cards)."

CJ, if this statement is true, that the Team YOU LED, as a SSG, was personally responsible for 14.5% of the then high value targets captured or killed, where was that recognition for that feat of daring do. That should rate at least a DSC and a battlefield commission. If only they had you on the job in A'stan sooner Bin Laden would've never made it to hiding in Pakistan.

Of course he deleted that post as well.
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+1 # ThanksCharles Goins 2013-10-19 17:47
After reading TheBlaze.com's article about Grisham. I decided to see what I could find out about him and came across this article. At first I just skipped to the 2nd page and read snippets. I thought at first this must be someone trying ruin a good soldiers name. Then like I should have in the beginning, read the whole article. I realized I was an idiot and made a mistake.The way you backed up every word with facts and not one sentence had an ounce of spin to it is refreshing in a world where news isn't news anymore. Thank you, and I hope the truth about this insane individual is brought to light and all the commanders issuing these "That a boy" medals are brought to justice.Again Thanks for making an idiot just a little smarter..lol
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# GrishamLane 2013-10-19 20:38
I wonder if he is a Texas Native, cause if he was he would rather take a shot gun/ 22 with him than that automated.. It's just a natural thing to do in a true Texan's heart.. Or, I'll say this , that's the way my dad taught me and my older brother.. Oh, my brother is a Viet Nam Vet...he did 2 tours of Viet Nam..
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