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Rumor in Afghanistan: President Sucking Assets Away

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15 October 2012

Rumor Control is practically an industry within the military.  Some rumors are bad for morale and completely untrue, while others are bad for morale and are completely true.  (Why do most rumors seem to be bad for morale?)

Here is the latest rumor to hit my inbox, from a military email address in Afghanistan.  I have no idea if it is true.

The White House or Pentagon is welcome to confirm or deny:

Hi Michael,

I love reading your work. I also try to encourage as many soldiers and citizens to do the same every chance I get. It’s disappointing that even my fellow soldiers and airmen here at Bastion suffer from Afghanistan news burn-out or news apathy in general. I guess everyone is tired of fighting the longest war in U.S. history.

I’ve been in country since May, 2012. This won’t sound like a long tour for most but this was scheduled to be a quick in-out mission. The bottom line is I’m ready to go back stateside. We were scheduled to leave at the end of September but still have no travel date due to there being a lack of Strat airlift available. This is often the case but I got it on good word today that it’s not the world political climate, hostility all over the region especially Africa that’s holding up the show. It is the presidential election.

Apparently a huge percentage of our C17’s are being pulled for ‘Presidential Duty’ meaning instead of working to airlift troops and equipment in and out of Afghanistan and cover the other global logistics they are hauling the POTUS gear around on the campaign trail. If this is true I’d love someone to bring it to light. I lack the connections to check it out myself especially from here. I hope do hope this is pure rumor. It couldn’t possibly be legal even for the POTUS.  Fraud Waste & Abuse hotline anyone?

I’d think with the Obama campaign raising a record 181M in September they could afford to charter their own cargo planes and leave the military to do what it’s supposed to be doing.

Thanks in advance, love reading your work, especially the one about the recent attack at Bastion Air Base.

XXXX
Bastion AFG

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-20 # RE: Rumor in Afghanistan: President Sucking Assets AwaySteve Wille 2012-10-15 14:30
My dad flew this type of mission in the C141 (Norton 63rd MAW) for the Ronald Reagan campaign. He said the same thing. Its politics. Man-up. Deal with it.
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+10 # RE: RE: Rumor in Afghanistan: President Sucking Assets Awaya&n 2012-10-15 15:52
Were we suppose to be fighting a war at the time?
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+4 # DOUBT IThippiepooter 2012-10-15 14:33
That's a rumour this dyed in the wool English Tory rooting for Romney would love to be true, but is sure it isn't.

With the one party Democrat media Obama can afford to have a lot of chutzpah to get away with a lot of things, but this sounds like some casual aside that has snowballed.

When one wants something to be true it needs to have twice the strength of proof than something your dispassionat about. Let's see if that comes, wont be holding my breath.

NB MY: Got made redundant recently and I always tithe what I get coming in. You can't as a noble and worthy cause that donating to is an act of worship to God in my view. Keep up the great work. Sometimes have doubts about your judgement, but as I see it, your heart's all there.
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+4 # MrPhil Strick 2012-10-15 14:33
Would doubt that POTUS needs the aircraft for his various "teleprompters" to be hauled around. But then these days most anything is possible . . .
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# It the wheels man...Sun Tzu 2012-10-15 19:06
With all the vehicles the small marching army that follows the POTUS around needs and what with the cutbacks in aircraft inventory and the numerous 'vacations' the Obomination and his family takes, it is no wonder this 'rumor' is getting traction :-?

There is a book out right now that exposes the huge amount assets used and of the taxpayers money spent by the Obomination on vacations, $1.4 billion estimated in 2010 alone and the author claims that number maybe a low ball figure :-?

Now somebody try and convince me this 'rumor' is not TRUE :eek:
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-1 # Mr.Herrmann Glockler 2012-10-15 14:39
This rumor dovetails nicely with the reported suppression of the military vote by our Imposer in Chief.
He knows the miitary is not his friend in the voting boott, so he keeps them away from the booths any way he can, and deep sixing them in Afghanistan is just one way
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-2 # RE: Mr.okiquit 2012-10-15 16:09
Herrmann, you realize that service members who want to vote aren't flown home for that purpose? Right?
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-1 # stranded ballotsChris G 2012-10-15 18:27
Duh, but their BALLOTS aren't flown home, OR tallied, and the Democrats are 100% behind that fraud. Keeping military overseas helps keep their in-person, at-home votes away, even as record numbers of illegals being rushed through amnesty and told to vote early and often helps the Imposter in Chief perpetuate his abuse & fraud.
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-4 # RE: stranded ballotsGeorge N 2012-10-15 18:58
Paranoia and Cynicism, the new right wing jobs provision.
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+3 # RE: RE: stranded ballotsFThomas 2012-10-15 20:08
Quoting George N:
Paranoia and Cynicism, the new right wing jobs provision.


George, I made a comment on this article and did not allow myself to slide towards political rehtoric.

If you've never been in the field as a grunt thinking "I hope I make it home." and then "Wow, I'm getting down to a double digit midget." and then "I'm down to a single digit midget." (all meaning time left in country) then you have no idea how something like this can impact the morale of the troops.

I don't see this as having any political undertones or agenda. IT IS ALL ABOUT A RUMOR THAT CAN IMPACT THE MORALE OF OUR TROOPS. Sorry for yelling, that isn't my normal post, but I want to make sure you know that this has nothing to do with politics.
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-23 # RE: Rumor in Afghanistan: President Sucking Assets AwayThis is beneath you 2012-10-15 14:58
Of all the rumors, why this one and why now?

You've been a little too eager to throw your perceived "moral weight" around lately. Time to take a step back and re-connect with a perhaps more ethical use of your "humint".

With all due respect.
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+23 # Rumors are RealMichael Yon author 2012-10-15 15:08
Whether they are true or not, rumors are real. They cause morale swings, and the military needs to address them. Clearly this one is causing a morale issue, and that in itself makes it noteworthy. A rumor that clearly is hitting morale is worth mentioning. Rumors are addressed like this, "There is a rumor that XYZ. The truth in the matter is ABC."

In Iraq, there was a rumor among Iraqis that the nightvision gear could see through women's clothing, and through walls. The Iraqis were going crazy. General Petraeus told me that he addressed this by bringing in local leaders and letting them look through the gear, and they were then assured that we could not see the women naked.

It is unwise to ignore serious rumors.
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+7 # RE: Rumors are Reala&n 2012-10-15 15:59
You are 100% right Mike but don't hold your breath if you are waiting for the truth to clear up this rumor from the Obama Administration. Maybe he'll send out our Ambassador to the UN to clear the matter up for you on the Sunday shows.
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+9 # CW4(Ret)USADan Jacobs 2012-10-15 15:07
I have personally seen C17's used on the campaign trail. Usually one C17 per travel group. One can put the numbers together for each POTUS or VP trip. Dont know if that would be enough to stress AC availability.
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+7 # RE: CW4(Ret)USAPaul 2012-10-15 15:54
They use numerous C17s on presidential missions, to move around the advance teams, equipment, etc. including the presidential limousines! When the administration is hopping from city to city, there are numerous advance missions leapfrogging all over the country.

Consider that only 241 C-17s have been built, according to wikipedia, and not all of those went to the U.S., to take even 10-15 of those out to support the campaign could conceivably put a strain on the availability for theater... but then we have TONS of C-130s flyin around theater, right? When I was in Iraq, we rode in and out on 130's to Kuwait where we caught a charter L1011.
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# Heavy liftersPopsiq 2012-10-31 01:50
I understand that the heavy lifters are needed to move the administrative transport - the hardened limos and SS support vehicles.

That's done, as a matter of course, all the time. The difference at campaign time is in an increased frequency.

That shouldn't have an effect on the serviceability of the AC which rack-up the flight hours anyway - flying to Afghanistan, or on shorter hops around the USA.

One or two aircraft on increased political duty won't make much difference in Afghanistan.

It wouldn't be good optics to have the Prez arrive with a couple of leased Ruslans.
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+4 # RE: Rumor in Afghanistan: President Sucking Assets AwayRusty Shackleford 2012-10-15 15:14
It wouldn’t surprise me if it were true. I recently heard a story from a reliable source about a logistical cluster f@#k right after Obama was elected. He went on his whirlwind “Apology Tour” and was using military assets to fly his entourage (remember, there’s two sets of these things flying when he tours other counties) which sucked up all the movement assets of the incoming aviation brigade’s airframes. Long story short, the hero logistics guys got the mission accomplished, but the amount of money used to make it happen was staggering.

While I understand that technically they’re his planes, you would think someone would be able to plan these kinds of things differently in order to allow service members their assets…or not since I don’t think this administration has no love for the military unless it involves a photo-op.
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# RE: RE: Rumor in Afghanistan: President Sucking Assets AwayNeats 2012-10-15 16:04
Maybe old lady Obama is taking another vacation on our dime. It takes a lot of planes to haul all her family and friends and their snacks around the world.
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+4 # RE: RE: Rumor in Afghanistan: President Sucking Assets AwayDan Jacobs 2012-10-15 19:02
"technically they’re his planes"

Cry BS on this one. They are the TAXPAYERS aircraft on loan. Get your head on straight.
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+11 # Truth be told...Andrew 2012-10-15 15:16
There is nothing new or secret about this. The logistics trail and expense for a traveling POTUS is well know. I've been on the receiving end of several Presidential trips overseas and the C-17 is the mode of transport for much of the advanced party, limos, details, boat-loads of equipment, and even helicopters. There are always back-ups for everything, to include the C-17s. I would imagine that with the exception of the helicopters, the same is provided in when he travels accross country in to various stops in the USA. Certainly was the case when he want to my home state of Colorado earlier this year as I watched the C-17s ferry in equipment in the days before he arrived.
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+13 # SuncoastFred Fleming 2012-10-15 15:16
The American public has no idea what it takes to move the POTUS around. They just think the single 747 AF-1 is airborne. No, much more is needed. When the POTUS goes off shore, including to Hawaii, it takes a lot of air power. There is AF-1 and a backup 747, the 747 communications plane, 2 tankers, an AWAC, at least 4 if not 6 F-15s for air cover, numerous C-17 or C-130s to haul limos and Secret Service vehicles. Of course Bo the dog gets his own jet as well. Travel in the US could be a little less, but when POTUS was using the Buses, they were flown from stop to stop in a C-17 or C-130 and other C-17s flew the Secret Service equipment while POTUS flew AF-1 to the next stop, got out and into the bus and drove through town. Then load all it all back up and fly to the next stop and repeat the program. Yes, unfortunately, that is the way campaigning is done for the incumbent. Your tax dollars at work for a re-election campaign. :-x
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+5 # RE: Rumor in Afghanistan: President Sucking Assets Awaya&n 2012-10-15 15:34
Yeah....probabl y just a rumor. You know like...he denied security to our embassy in Libya...or refuses to secure our Mexican border....or is sueing Arizona for trying to protect itself against an invasion over the border...or is illegally, unconstitutiona lly, giving amnesty to illegals...or is dragging his feet prosecuting terrorists...or has run guns to drug cartels...or has broken the country paying off his buddies with tax payer money...or has destroyed our healthcare system...or murders with his mouth anyone who disagrees with him...or refuses to do anything practical that would make the USA energy independent...o r went along and promoted the Arab Spring even though it only put the muslim brotherhood and other terrorists in a more powerful position in the world...or ran around the world bashing America and apologizing for us blaming us for all the worlds problems...or is redistributing wealth instead of growing wealth in our country....or has destroyed the middle class and is now trying to destroy those in our country who create jobs or....well...wh y go on. All just silly rumors like the one you passed on, Mike. None so blind as those who won't see the truth and god save us from the ones who are too stupid to determine which rumors are true and which are false by checking out the facts. The "CC" is good at spreading the rumor that anything said about him is just a rumor spread by right wing nuts. That's one rumor lazy people who refuse to do the work of checking things out for themselves are all too willing to believe....whil e the country goes over a cliff or runs into a brick wall as the case might be. Thanks Mike...Many excuses will be given to dismiss your rumor before election day you can be sure.
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+5 # Reported in March by Fox NewsJ. Mayfield 2012-10-15 15:38
Obama pulled 5 C-130s and 4 C-17s in March for campaign use.

http://nation.foxnews.com/obama-campaign/2012/03/09/obama-pulls-9-air-force-aircraft-campaign-use

Maybe he has pulled more since.
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+5 # RE: Rumor in Afghanistan: President Sucking Assets AwayHeath 2012-10-15 15:39
My uncle was in the U.S. Air Force ( retired & passed away ) and he used to work on C-130's. the U.S. Troops should come home for R & R with their families statesides. I find it abominable that Obama is using all the military aircrafts for " presidential duties " on the campigan trail. Never use national resources at the expense of U.S. Troops for campigan purposes.
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+4 # RE: RE: Rumor in Afghanistan: President Sucking Assets AwayNeats 2012-10-15 16:12
Is this the reason they refused the airplane the Libyan Embassy requested for security?? Remember that? It made no sense to me when I first read the fact but now it does.
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+5 # RE: RE: RE: Rumor in Afghanistan: President Sucking Assets Awayannie 2012-10-15 16:14
That was just another bump on the runway.
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-14 # RE: Rumor in Afghanistan: President Sucking Assets AwayThis is beneath you 2012-10-15 15:57
It's not a serious rumor, it's a politically-mot ivated "rumor".

One suspects this use of materiel - if true - is no different than use in other administrations . Ignoring that possibility simply deepens the power you say this "rumor" has.

Getting to the bottom of an obviously politically-mot ivated rumor is not the same as spreading it and giving the appearance that you simply have no idea (clutch your pearls!) whether it could be true.

This is a huge departure from the skill set you bring to your investigative journalism. One wonders why you chose not to use it on this so-called rumor.

Why this; why now?
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-3 # RE: RE: Rumor in Afghanistan: President Sucking Assets Awayhippiepooter 2012-10-15 16:32
"This is a huge departure from the skill set you bring to your investigative journalism. One wonders why you chose not to use it on this so-called rumor.

Why this; why now?"

Ermm, this rumour wouldn't exactly crop up if there wasn't an election on, would it?

It's looking like my assumption that this would have no substance might prove incorrect. From the information here it appears military aircraft use is standard for a campaigning incumbent.

The issue is raised though as to whether - or to what extent - this should be the case when US servicemen are so extensively deployed.

Interesting to see how that one unfolds if the 'rumour' is true.

As per above, I'm a deep seated conservative, but like any sincere democrat, the facts should always come first.

Any interests to declare yourself here? I'm getting that impression.
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+4 # VNAFVNAF 2012-10-15 16:07
I believe the story was first posted on the Daily Caller web site in March. 5 C-130s and 4 C-17s is a lot of heavy lift. Rumors about Obama gain traction because the people who have followed him for the last 5 years know he is capable of even the most outrageous actions.
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+5 # RE: Rumor in Afghanistan: President Sucking Assets Awaymatt 2012-10-15 16:10
This has been SOP for most every campaign for some time. Part of the perquisites of power.The Fox story is correct. The VIP wing at Andrews manages this program every 4 years.
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+5 # Rumours are real.Pete 2012-10-15 16:17
You are right, Michael. Rumours are real and need to be addressed to either confirm or put an end to them.

In my case, about 30 years ago in peacetime, I met some indiginous militia who thought that the rear sight of the AK-47 was a power setting...and the higher you elevated the rear sight, the greater the power.

So you do us a service by addressing the rumours out there.
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# AK siteMichael Yon author 2012-10-15 16:27
Pete,

Thank you. What country was that in?
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# funny but it worksChris G 2012-10-15 18:30
Well, it DOES put you on target farther out, so it makes sense if you don't know any better! The effect is the same, so why burst their bubble.
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-12 # RE: Rumor in Afghanistan: President Sucking Assets Awayokiquit 2012-10-15 16:19
Geez. Anybody here remember ALLLL the way back to 2004? Anybody remember two wars in progress during a presidential campaign? Anybody remember the same rumor going around, with a lot less self-righteous blather attached?

And does anybody seriously think the Air Force hasn't been allocating massive resources for presidential travel since the Kennedy YEARS? No matter which party the POTUS represents?

The only "fact" I see in this article and the responses is the blatant Republican bias of the U.S. military and its amen chorus.
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+8 # RE: RE: Rumor in Afghanistan: President Sucking Assets Awayannie 2012-10-15 17:01
You could be right okiquit....on the other hand it could be that some of us just don't like dictators who don't know their rears from a hole in the ground when it comes to defending our country. What's the matter....you think we who don't agree with you should just sit down and shut up? Wait...where have I heard that before....oh... I remember...from this administration.
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# PatriotRudy 2012-10-15 16:21
that's not all POTUS has been sucking...
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-4 # Yeah noHarry Seeward 2012-10-15 16:56
Someone would notice a bunch of C17s zipping around the country ahead of Air Force One.

After all they're quite large. Hard to miss.
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-6 # Re: This is beneath youMary H 2012-10-15 17:00
"Of all the rumors, why this one and why now?

You've been a little too eager to throw your perceived "moral weight" around lately. Time to take a step back and re-connect with a perhaps more ethical use of your "humint".

With all due respect."

As a long-time follower of MY's and avid fan, I was originally offended by this post, but as I thought about it, I've come to appreciate. Though I still think there was a little too much patronizing condescension to be friendly, it's necessary to have checks and balances. So Michael, your shoulders are wide enough to handle it, and iron sharpens iron. I'd like to see a reply.
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+10 # Mary HMichael Yon author 2012-10-15 17:19
Having both been in the military, and having covered it long enough, the importance of addressing rumors is clear. This rumor is making the rounds (there is actually at least some truth to it), and so it should be addressed. It appears that some people understand what I am saying here, but some others do not quite get the point that the issue is THE RUMOR. The issue is not even if it is true or not, but that THE RUMOR exists and should be addressed. If were a commander, I would handle it one of two ways: 1) I have checked into this rumor, and it is false. Now get back to work and stop spreading rumors. 2). I checked into this rumor and it is true. He's the damn President. You aren't. Now get back to work.

Case closed. Rumor addressed.
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+3 # RE: Rumor in Afghanistan: President Sucking Assets AwayDeidre 2012-10-15 17:07
Any "newsman" or columnist who doesn't check out rumors isn't worth his salt. This is no rumor. Use of military equipment for the President is an every-day occurrence. The extent to which this certain POTUS has used OUR (not HIS) assets is what needs to be checked. If it is a lot more than previous Administrations , that is news. If it is not, then the "rumor" is found to be based on fact but not fully true. Thanks for getting people thinking, Michael. We don't do enough of it.
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# Been there, Done ThatBillyBob 2012-10-15 17:46
It is part of "Banner Express" and every four years, by law a certain amount of airlift assets are used to take the party in charge around the country. I know I did it for the Bush years. It is nothing new. The assets are from units do extra flying added to their regular flying mission and the work load is spread out to not affect the missions doing real world mission. This misinformation about Obama taking planes from real world mission is just another another political story planted to make Obama seem bad. Notice there was no news about it when Bush, who started these wars did it.

http://www.dcmilitary.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20111209/NEWS09/712099912/89th-activates-2-eas-squadrons&template=PrinterFriendly
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+3 # If there's smoke there's some fire! Quench the rumor if it isn't true!FThomas 2012-10-15 18:42
BillyBob, the grunt pounding the streets and countryside of Afghanistan are at the tip of the spear. They hear a rumor and rather it is true or not it takes on a life of it's own. If it isn't true their commanders need to address it so as not to allow it impact the morale of the troops.

They've got enough to worry about besides getting shot and and blow up by IED's. They worry about being MediVac'd out and should be. That isn't a rumor, but fact.

Supporting our troops goes far beyond just making sure they have the supplies and tools they need to get the job done. It means addressing their emotional, mental and spiritual needs on the battlefield. This is a "Rumor" that needs to be addressed. Hopefully higher command besides making piss poor decisions on the use of MediVac Resources will do their job.
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# Memory Loss Maybe...Sun Tzu 2012-10-15 18:44
I don't seem to remember POTUS Bush taking junkets every other day to smooze celebrities :o

I don't seem to remember POTUS Bush flying his family to exotic locations around the panet three to four times a year :-?

Please explain to me WHY any 13 year old, especially on taxpayers money, needs to go on Spring Break in Mexico, imagine the outrageous cost of that security detail :-x

I don't seem to remember POTUS Bush running from golf course to golf course while talking about taking more of our hard earned money to give to those who don't earn or produce a damn thing other than more government dependents :eek:

This not an attempt to smear the Obomination, he does that all by himself, everytime he opens his lying mouth, which lately, has been the biggest pack of lies ever :o

Libya anyone? HELLO :o
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+3 # RE: Memory Loss Maybe...BillyBob 2012-10-15 19:11
Yes Sun Tzu you do have memory loss and you don't seem be to able to stay on the subject at hand.
I provide a link with the real info you you go off on tangents, but then again every time I provide time dated info, the replies are all the same.
You seem to have forgotten that Bush start these wars with no way to pay for it, but I assume you'll go off on a tangent again...
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-3 # So what..Sun Tzu 2012-10-15 20:17
I am not off tangent and your link means NOTHING today, we are talking about NOW and NOT what George Bush did, :-?

My retort was to your off target inane comments about Bush which has nothing to do with what the PMIC is doing and continues to do abusing the privilege of using our military aircraft and crews, IT'S DOCUMENTED FACT, YO! :o

If anything YOU are the one off tangent as an obvious Obomination butt kisser extraordinaire and an obvious Demoncratic troll:-?

Keep trying to prop up your BOY here, and see where that get's you :P
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# RE: So what..BillyBob 2012-10-17 01:19
Quoting Sun Tzu:
I am not off tangent and your link means NOTHING today, we are talking about NOW and NOT what George Bush did, :-?

My retort was to your off target inane comments about Bush which has nothing to do with what the PMIC is doing and continues to do abusing the privilege of using our military aircraft and crews, IT'S DOCUMENTED FACT, YO! :o

If anything YOU are the one off tangent as an obvious Obomination butt kisser extraordinaire and an obvious Demoncratic troll:-?

Keep trying to prop up your BOY here, and see where that get's you :P
Typical ultra Conservative ignorance, you act like I'm putting down President Bush, I'm NOT.

I'm telling you about MY experiences, I was not in this airlift business for Clinton or Reagan.

I provide you with a link of FACTS and you chose to ignore it and call me names, what is it with you small minded people when confronted with the facts and can not comprehend what is being told to you and think that everyone one is attacking you.

What are you going to do next ? Unleash the power of the CAPLOCK ?

Or continue to attempt to taunt me with your third grade comments about trolls ?
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+3 # Reality CheckSun Tzu 2012-10-15 18:28
If you care to note that whenever the President travels there is an advance unit that comes in ahead and it's always military aircraft carrying the vehicles needed to transport the small army that accompanies the president, it used to be and still is many cases C4's, but for smaller locations the KC-10 is perfect with it's STOL capabilities and with the present POTUS that seems to be a lot of such places lately.

But the most disturbing part of this is the 'vacations' taken by the Obomination's family, wherein the same small army must accompany 'them' also, there is where your extra aircraft are going, i.e. the KC-10s

At latest estimate by reliable sources, $1.4 billion in vacation bucks in 2010, ALONE!

We do indeed need a change, pronto!
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# RE: Reality CheckSun Tzu 2012-10-15 19:12
Quoting Sun Tzu:
I KC-10 is perfect with it's STOL capabilities
We do indeed need a change, pronto!


Korrection: C-17 in place of KC-10, mea culpa :-*
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+4 # RE: Rumor in Afghanistan: President Sucking Assets AwayHeath 2012-10-15 18:50
If every 4 years, they need that much airlifts then need to pay the aircraft industry a visit to make more airplanes for the " Presidential Fleet " I understand security is needed for our President & Vice President and the candidates on the campigan trail but to take airplanes away from U.S. Military is not cool in my book.
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+5 # RE: RE: Rumor in Afghanistan: President Sucking Assets AwayBillyBob 2012-10-15 19:21
Heath Every 4 years, this mission has been "planned". So it is not something new. Like this "Rumor" seems to think.
The military provide this ability at way less cost than a civilian agency. There is no overtime pay given to the military people, I work 10 to 12 hours a day, 6 or 7 day a week, been a while I forgot. The mission ended on Nov 4th that year, and in January (less than 2 months later) we were deployed to SouthWest Asia, that mission continued for 2 years, I thing I did 4 months on 4 months off till the end of that mission.
We do this as part of our Air Force Mission, we go over an above on everything thing we do.
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+4 # RE: Rumor in Afghanistan: President Sucking Assets AwayHeath 2012-10-15 19:30
As an American taxpayer, if I get married someday, my wife and I start a family then when my son or daughter is of military age. Unless my children are on a classified top secret mission in defense of our country. I would like to see my children come home on their annual visits from the U.S. Military. This is not only good for our battlefield troops but on the U.S. Homefront too. For Obama to take away military aircraft destined for U.S. Troops coming home this Thanksgiving & Christmas is not cool. This concern needs to be addressed so that in the future, when presidential elections come around, our U.S. Troops ( read our children, our sons & daughters ) can still come home on their annual visit from the U.S. Military.
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+4 # RE: Rumor in Afghanistan: President Sucking Assets AwayHeath 2012-10-15 19:45
BillyBob, Thank you for your service & God Bless and try to have a Happy Thanksgiving the best you can too. :-)
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-2 # The Prez Campaging and a solutionJack E. Hammond 2012-10-15 21:12
Folks,

There is a solution to this and other items but the American people would never consider it. Today -- no matter the party -- the president spends two years doing his job and two years campaigning. To wit, limit the president to on 6 year term. That way he spends his term doing his job.

Also the VP. The president does not pick the best man in case his heart stops but who will help his campaign. The President should pick his VP after he is elected and then the House in a secret vote can reject his pick by a 2/3s vote. That will prevent politics. And the VP should be prevented from being elected president also after during his term or after his term for 6 years.

Jack E. Hammond

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-5 # RE: Rumor in Afghanistan: President Sucking Assets AwayGene Hill 2012-10-15 22:22
Just more political false fodder during a presidential year, this time from republican bloggers.
IF C-17's are being reassigned in Afghnaistan, it is because of the withdrawal of miliraty support personnel and not for use by the POTUS, as the POTUS already has his own transportation assigned.
Just more Internet bullsh*t . . .
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+2 # Airlift Veteran with 2 Decades Flying Strat-AirM1ke 2012-10-16 01:04
USNORTHCOM requested the missions. The Joint Staff directed the Request for Forces to USTRANSCOM and Air Combat Command. TRANSCOM tasked USAF via the TACC. ACC supports with AWACS and fighter CAPs refueled by AMC tankers. For every Presidential support airlift mission there are two planes and two full crews on stand-by as back-ups to the primary. It is a significant effort accounting for a large number of aircraft, hundreds of Airmen and millions of dollars worth of fuel.
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+1 # RE: Rumor in Afghanistan: President Sucking Assets AwayChris Higgins 2012-10-16 01:13
Geez mike ya really stirred the pot with this one. I always wonder why folks start rumors like this. My assumption is that they are afraid their ideas won't hold their own, so they resort to the use of rumor and innuendo. You raise a good point about quashing the rumors. However, something like this is really beneath the dignity of the office.
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+2 # RumorsBrandon 2012-10-16 03:43
As my dearly departed grandfather (and WWII Army Veteran) was fond of saying, "If you don't hear a rumor you like by one o'clock, start one." Anyone who's served in the military and fails to acknowledge the myriad rumors and dearth of misinformation must have put their full faith in said faulty information. Unless the author is known to Mr. Yon I'd question the validity of the message just from the way it's written.
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-2 # Really? You have NO idea if it's true?Disappointed 2012-10-16 14:42
I really enjoy your columns, but this is irresponsible blogging at best.

Several points:
1. You suggest that you have "no idea" if the rumor is true. Really? You consider the statement that a "huge percentage" of our aircraft are being used for presidential duties, and that this is impacting our ability to airlift troops is both equally likely to be true or false?

2. You also make the point that rumors need to be addressed, because left unchecked, they continue to spread. However, there's literally no end of rumors like this. Repeating them to dismiss them forces you to investigate each one, then release the results of your investigation. And then do it again the next day for the next rumor. And again. And again. There's literally no end.

3. One reason for repeating a rumor like this is that you want to get it out there so that it can be confirmed or denied. Another reason would be to simply spread the rumor, without having to take any ownership for its validity or not. In this particular case, your posting smells like the latter. You're a smart, well connected writer who could probably confirm or deny this rumor fairly easily, and you could do it before posting the rumor. Instead, you post the rumor and challenge the Pentagon or White House to deny/confirm it.
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+1 # RE: Rumor in Afghanistan: President Sucking Assets AwayDisappointedBinLaden 2012-10-16 20:06
Has farty pants, too!
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