Michael's Dispatches

Michael Moore’s Crime

 

Front Page of Michael Moore's web site

Many readers have complained that Michael Moore, in the conduct of his latest crusade against whatever he is against this month, has illegally used one of my photos on the banner of his website. Mr. Moore is not the first to have done so, and my readers can get pretty upset when it happens.

 

My lawyer has demanded that Mr. Moore take it down.

 

I usually freely grant use of my work to truthful, peaceful, non-commercial, non-political outlets. For instance, a church group wanted to use one of my photos for their congregation. I was honored and gave it to them freely. On another occasion, a peaceful, non-profit Islamic organization wanted to use the same photo that Michael Moore has infringed upon (Major Mark Bieger cradling a little girl named Farah), and I was honored to contribute to their peaceful cause. I’ve seen grandmothers use my work in technically illegal ways, but since they’re not a big company, they probably have no idea about copyright, and usually use the work in tasteful, appropriate ways, I just smile and say “Go ahead, Ma’am.”

 

But frequently, big companies and individuals who are knowledgeable of copyright laws filch my work and use it in ways that many readers consider partisan, highly political or incendiary. When this happens, I usually go after the infringer, and so do my readers.

 

Now here’s Michael Moore, the latest infringer, using my work for his own crude political purposes. I recall some years ago watching one of his movies in Paris, and thinking how sad it was that an American would make propaganda so flagrant that it seemed pornographic. It was sad but at the same time uplifting, because Mr. Moore was able to exercise his right to free speech, rights that should never be infringed upon.

 

Mr. Moore is influential, rich, and could likely intimidate most photographers. But I ask my readers to please leave him be. Attacking him likely will be counterproductive. I know how to fight, and though I would fight for Mr. Moore’s right to free expression, I will fight against him if he steals my work and uses it in an inflammatory fashion.

 

It’s got nothing to do with the fact that Michael Moore is anti-war (he’s not just against the Iraq War, but he was also against the war in Afghanistan). I respect Moore’s opposition to the Iraq War; I might even agree with him on some particulars. But I object to the tone of many of his arguments, especially the manner in which he uses my work to further his causes. As I said above, sometimes it seems pornographic. That’s a strong word, so I’ll explain.

 

Justice Potter Stewart once defined pornography by saying, “I know it when I see it.” Pornography and propaganda are closely related, as they are both cynical attempts at manipulation, rooted in a lack of respect for humanity. War Porn is one of the more disturbing developments in the new media, as people on both sides of the Iraq War get their kicks watching video images of death and destruction as long as it’s their opponents who get killed. Whether it’s an Al Qaeda cell-phone video of an IED attack or the grisly footage of a Coalition air strike, War Porn is degrading and incendiary. Of course, some footage is newsworthy and informative and the public deserves to see it. There is also great value to soldiers in watching footage for training purposes and to better understand battlefields and weapons. But at some point, especially when the material is used to make political points, images of combat can cross the line into pornography. People die in war, but we must never forget that each casualty is a human being, even people as deserving of death as Al Qaeda. Denying our opponents’ humanity, we lose a little of our own.

 

When someone’s grandmother disseminates the photo of Major Beiger cradling a dying girl in his arms, I allow the usage because I feel she is trying to share the human tragedy. When Michael Moore puts that same photo on his web site, alongside images of George Bush, John McCain and Hillary Clinton, the clear implication is that Farah’s death is their fault. That is a misrepresentation of the facts on the ground, as well as the story of the photo. Farah was killed by a suicide car bomb in Mosul on May 2, 2005. Major Bieger and other soldiers literally risked their own lives to save many children and adults that day, but Farah didn’t make it. Michael Moore apparently does not understand or refuses to acknowledge the moral distinction between a man who would murder innocent people, and a man who would sacrifice himself to save them. The photo, as I took it, is the truth, but Moore uses it illegally to convey falsehoods. His mind is that of a political propagandist who sees Farah’s death not as a human tragedy, but a tool.

 

A photograph can be a signal event in a war. Think of the flag raising at Iwo Jima, the naked Vietnamese girl fleeing her napalmed village, prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib. These photos were not just important journalistically, but also strategically each one literally shifted the course of a war. Photographs can be immensely powerful because they are single images, deep with meaning, able to resonate with disparate audiences, straight through language barriers, at an emotional, even visceral, level. A picture can tell a thousand words in a thousand languages, but placed in the wrong context, a photograph can be turned into propaganda, and the truth becomes a lie.

 

We need to know the truth about the wars we are currently fighting. That’s why I went to Iraq in the first place. Sometimes the difference between War Porn and the truth can be subtle, ambiguous, even subjective. But I know it when I see it. And if Michael Moore learned to respect not just my work, but other aspects of the truth, not to mention respecting his audience’s intelligence, he would better serve his own cause.

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0 # hoffman 2008-05-19 03:07
Mr. Yon,
I am thoroughly disgusted with that man and absolutely sick to my stomach that he would do that.
As a side note, I thoroughly enjoy your posting, it has been an eye opener to me and I greatly appreciate all your efforts, as well as those of our men. I consider it to be an honor to be an American, and a Navy brat at that, our hearts and prayers are with our troops.
God bless.
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0 # crosspatch 2008-05-19 03:35
That this man would stoop to stealing someone else's property for their own profit speaks volumes. He need some lessons in common decency if you ask me.
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0 # Goat 2008-05-19 04:55
Mike. thanks for the awesome and dangerous work you have done to bring the war into perspective for us many loyal readers. I have linked to most of your dispatches from the war zone and read all of them but I would never steal one of your incredible pictures without direct permission even though I have wanted to, the one mentioned and the cross raising being two that come to mind. You deserve several Pulitzers for your work and have become the modern day Ernie Pyle.
I seriously disagree with Moore and hope you nail him for the use of your work and I admire your stance on free speech, he can yelp all he wants but he does not have the right to steal your pictures.
Keep up the awesome work and may the good Lord keep an eye on your back!
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0 # Noocyte 2008-05-19 05:21
Yes, another pun on Moore's name.

Still, hardly more dignified treatment appears fitting for someone who is tantamount to the Leni Riefenstahl of our age (minus the redemptively masterful aesthetics). One of the things which has struck me most about your work has been its willingness to not shrink from the forthright reporting of competing narratives. You give due weight to all aspects of a story, even those which could be seen as undermining your central premises. You frequently raise more questions than you spoon-feed answers. This rare quality of honesty is something which is absent (note lack of qualifiers) from Moore's work. He never strays from message...even when messy facts get in the way.

For him to appropriate any if your images --but most especially one which is so laden with grief and courage and hope-- is an abomination of the lowest order. I understand and respect your wanting to take the high road, but I do wish your lawyers could find some way for that shambling mass of misappropriated protoplasm to pay a higher price than mere, unmarked removal of your photograph...an d, in the process, allow still more people to come to know the real story of Farah's tragic death, and the valor and heartbreak of her would-be rescuers.

Godsspeed, Michael.
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0 # Shane Corcoran 2008-05-19 05:31
We won't go nuts on him via e-mail on account of your request, but I find it difficult not to light into his stupid arse.

On a side note, I let several of my buddies (we're all in the Army) borrow Moment of Truth to read, and they all returned it after a day or two and told me they were going to buy their own copies.
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0 # Dan Kauffman 2008-05-19 07:23
Must be doing good, I was inspired by your above post and decided to order it, I was thinking about ordering some as gifts, But since I got an

Out of stock will charge your credit card and ship when it becomes available" message I will wait to order my brothers and fathers copies after I get mine ;-)
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0 # iron chef 2008-05-19 11:24
You're a class act, sir.

That is all.
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0 # GM Cassel AMH1AW USN Ret. 2008-05-19 12:01
I agree with you wholeheartedly. Moore and his like will tailor everything to suit whatever it is they are trying to get across.
The part that gets to me is, I gave this Nation 20 years of service. No personal decorations or letters of commendation, just showed up every day. I enlisted during that other war Moore was probably against, Vietnam. Truthfully,it was to get out of my home town. But it turned into something more than that.
Keep up the outstanding work.
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0 # Bridget 2008-05-19 12:28
Thank You
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0 # Stacey Parr 2008-05-19 12:33
Mr. Yon,
Your intelligent, measured response to that overblown windbag is an excellent example of why everyone should be reading your work on the Iraq war. Unlike most observers and arm-chair generals on both sides of the ideological divide, you bring a sorely needed clear-eyed perspective to a terribly complex and confounded event. I am proud to say I was a VERY early purchaser of your book. I recommend it to many, and it is my husband's father's day present this year. Keep up the good work, and may God keep you and our brave fighting men and women safe from harm.
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0 # Cricket T. 2008-05-19 13:06
Stealing a Truth and making it pornographic makes Moore the worst of a liar and a thief. He is a hijacker - a kidnapper of truth - if you will; and much of what he does in the name of Free Speech, could surely rank as a 'hate-crime'.

By Moral Mathematics, he WILL pay. But it would be a favor to him, if you push for payment' now; rather than have him 'past due' at some future and what well could be, an inconvenient time. (And seeing Justice served; is a rewarding lesson for all.. . .)

Thank you, Mr. Yon, for 'Moment of Truth'. Thought originally; that I was not quite ready to face, at this time, the truths you bring; but am ordering your book today.
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0 # Jennifer 2008-05-19 13:27
Thank you Mr.Yon for your work. I know you are up to this fight.
Moment of Truth is an outstanding book that I will not let anyone borrow. I let people look at my copy (signed in Mosul) and them tell them to buy their own. I was blown away by the honesty. You have a way with pictures, both with your camera and formed with your words.
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0 # Daisy 2008-05-19 13:47
What a difference being a committed gentleman makes. You powerfully honor our troops; our country and the best of humanity with your civilized stance. Your honesty and compassion and bravery are the real deal.

Mr. Moore, on the other hand, can only posture as a "people's hero" in an attempt to hide his treacherous cowardice. To put it mildly, he is not a man of high degree.
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0 # Barney Rubble 2008-05-19 14:00
Michael Moore is a Canadian, not an American, of which I am glad.
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0 # Josh 2008-05-19 14:18
Unfortunately, Barney, Michael Moore is in fact an American -- born and raised in Davison, Michigan.
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0 # sinanju 2008-05-19 16:16
Very well said sir, I admire your policy on unauthorized use of your images. I promise to buy your long-awaited book and am very glad that you have managed to survive so long in your chosen profession without either getting killed or burning out. The point is that Moore and his staffers are no amateurs and know the rules of the game. I guess he just assumes he can out-lawyer you if you dare to challenge him. Go get him, tiger.

Apropos of your other points, I'll admit to watching those YouTube AC-130 clips and now feel properly ashamed. I swear if I ever do it again, I'll dig out my roadstand souvenir Ashura flail and give myself a proper going over. But, to inject a little levity, I would like to remind you of the famous "Osama and Evil Bert" image that found its way onto a demonstrator's homemade collage sign memorably photographed at an islamist demonstration in Dhaka, Bangaladesh a few years ago...
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0 # Bob G 2008-05-19 16:53
I know that Michael Moore would fight you tooth and nail to avoid paying any penalty for stealing your image. He believes in free speech not necessarily truth in speech. He believes in facts, unless they get in the way of the cause that he is trumpeting. He thinks himself a crusader of just causes but would steal if it suited his desires. You are a class act Michael Yon, I am going to heed your wishes and not take any action on my part against Mr. Moore. I would only hope that for his theft, he should help finance your work of bringing out the truth.
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0 # sinanju 2008-05-19 17:03
The point is for us not to play into his hands. Moore would love to be able to wave copies of death threats he's received from us unwashed warmongers.

Although he probably gets far more death threats for supporting Obama over Hillary.
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0 # Paul B 2008-05-19 17:07
"When Michael Moore puts that same photo on his web site, alongside images of George Bush, John McCain and Hillary Clinton, the clear implication is that Farahƒ??s death is their fault. That is a misrepresentati on of the facts on the ground, as well as the story of the photo. Farah was killed by a suicide car bomb in Mosul on May 2, 2005. Major Bieger and other soldiers literally risked their own lives to save many children and adults that day, but Farah didnƒ??t make it. Michael Moore apparently does not understand ƒ?? or refuses to acknowledge ƒ?? the moral distinction between a man who would murder innocent people, and a man who would sacrifice himself to save them."

I understand your point and agree that the soldier is a hero while Farah's killers are filth. I think Moore is using the photo for a larger point that is just as true - there wouldn't be suicide car bomb's in Mosul if the U.S. hadn't invaded.
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0 # MikeT 2008-05-19 19:54
"I understand your point and agree that the soldier is a hero while Farah's killers are filth. I think Moore is using the photo for a larger point that is just as true - there wouldn't be suicide car bomb's in Mosul if the U.S. hadn't invaded."

And how far back should one stand to get the even larger points, Paul? There wouldn't have been suicide bombers in Mosul if Saddam Hussein had not invaded Kuwait, defied the truce, instigated terrorist attacks, etc., etc.

But it is clear to any reasonable mind that there would not have been a suicide bombing if the suicide bomber had not decided to kill hundreds of innocents. That is the true proximate cause of the bombing aftermath depicted by Mr. Yon's photo. Your eagerness to excuse the inexcusable is highly regrettable and highly counter-product ive.
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0 # Nicky Boy 2008-05-19 23:46
You can't just say that Moore's work is propaganda. You have to prove it. Please provide an example of his work that fits the definition. Propaganda sold this war, so it's not like any of us don't know what it is. I don't agree with everything the man says, but simply calling him names doesn't raise the level of debate any.

You can slice it and dice it any way you want. But we have no business being in Iraq (neither does it makes sense to bomb a nation (Afghanistan) in an attempt to kill one man we assumed was there....a man who was in charge of a bunch of SAUDI terrorists)

If we hadn't went in there, that dead child in your image would more than likely be alive today. That's simple truth.

I support the troops more than anyone. I want them to come home. I truly respect the work you're doing, but if Moore is a propagandist, it would not be hard for him to fling the same accusation at you.
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0 # Elvis 2008-05-20 00:23
Par for the course for Michael Moore. Everybody else's stuff is supposed to be free and for the public welfare-- and of course it''ll be available in perpetual supply regardless of the incentive structure. I saw him on Larry King a few week's ago and he tried to make the pitch for free HBO for everyone and to get Larry King to agree to it since the parent corporation of CNN is the parent corporation of HBO.

Hey Mike, try talking Harvey Weinstein into getting ZERO income after he releases your next movie! As Tyler Durden would say, "Free to all..."

The resulting shouts from Big Harv will blow 50 pounds off you!
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0 # Joanie 2008-05-20 00:40
I'm not going to argue with those who are going to find a way (no matter how illogical) to support Moore's reasoning. That's foolish. The simple fact here is that he grabbed Michael Yon's photo and used it without permission. That is wrong and he can't talk his way out of it. He needs to cease using it. It is up to Michael Yon to grant permission for use of his images to whomever he chooses. If a request comes in for usage and he does not agree with the purpose, he has every right to decline the request. Since Moore didn't even bother to ask, it makes the offense that much more egregious.

As a photographer, I often grant use of my work for websites or promotional materials. All I ask, in most cases, is for proper credit. If credit isn't going to be attributed, the price of that image (or images) goes up. Occasionally, I have people who decide not to fulfill their part of the agreement and I make sure they understand the terms of the contract they signed. For those who take my work without permission, once I am aware of it, it is up to me to determine whether or not it's within my level of comfort for them to use the images. If it is, I simply write them and thank them for finding my work inspiring enough to include on their site or sometimes ask what it was about the image that appealed to them. Surprisingly, they often add a photo credit to the site and thank me for being so understanding. For the instances where my work is co-opted for purposes other than I intend them, I ask them to remove the image and cite copyright infringement. I have yet to find anyone who fights me on this. Of course, I'm not dealing with Moore or anyone else like him.

Forget the politics involved where Moore is concerned and recognize that Michael Yon's work was taken and used without consent. No matter what the intent, he has every right to demand the image be removed.
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0 # Mark Behnke 2008-05-20 00:48
Michael Yon,
In your third to last paragraph I think you are arguing that it was the carbombers who killed Farah and not Dubya. To illustrate your point better you might want to mention the particulars of the attack, namely the fact that the bomber attacked *through* the children when he did not have to. HE made the decision to kill the children, including Farah.

I think that detail would be very helpful in strengthening the point that you are making.

It would also make Lumpy Riefenstahl look like even more of an ass than he is. (Sorry, just hate that guy.)
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0 # Solo 2008-05-20 01:13
M. Moore simply does not care what he uses to manipulate anything to further his own agenda, and wealth. It's what he does, manipulate.
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0 # ZAP 2008-05-20 01:14
Michael, please check with your attorney about a couple of things.
1- does admitting that you have let people use this image for free, devalue your legal entitlement in an infringement situation
2- Should you really be admitting publicly, what images you have allowed people to use, and for how much? (especially the very same image for FREE!?!?!?)
3- You may want to rethink your logic, or at least the perception you have put out there about this publicly. That being, I not only loathe the scumbag that stole my work, but I primarily want to make an example of him, as the result of him standing for everything I am opposed to- That's how it could come across, and while tons of us dislike Jabba the Hut for various reasons, some valid, and some even more so....... You should probably remove your personal feelings about him from this, and treat it as strictly a business decision. It's simple..... He's got deep pockets, and broke the LAW... end of story... If you choose to settle with them for less, please don't make it public.

I follow your work, and hold most (if not all that I have seen) in very high regard. I think you should really be careful about the above...... Being a photographer myself, and having a bit of experience going up against some of the big boys for the very same stuff. Sending an invoice for the infringement, less than what the federal law can provide, is another no no. Just make sure to treat these kinds of people as terrorists.... Dot you I's and cross your T's, and always make sure to CYA!!!!!!!!!!

Go get 'em... and for everyone else reading this...... This kind of an issue is so frustrating as a photographer. Things of this nature are sooo complicated, and happen soo often, that the courts usually throw the book at offenders, because they only catch maybe 1/1000 of the violators. I just hope you registered the image. Can someone say "Bonus!"
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0 # poopie 2008-05-20 01:36
I have read most of your dispatches from the beginning and appreciate what you are doing reporting to us about what's up in the war zone. I was against this "invasion" from day one as I believe that it was based on lies and political opportunities for big money contractors. That our servicemen and women have fought and died without proper equipment and benefits speaks volumes about the priorities of our formerly great country.

When the majority of the people of America say that they think the war is a big mistake gone terribly wrong, it is a pivotal moment for us a country to stand up and say no more. But, of course, we don't have a say in those types of things. Only Congress does.
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0 # JB 2008-05-20 02:12
The first time I saw that picture I knew it would be associated with the American Soldier and the war in Iraq that our troops have great compassion.
At the time I wrote you to say that picture would touch many hearts,it did !

It's not worth talking about Michael Moore. Protect your picture ! Do what you must .

Will always remember Duece4

God Bless
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0 # Greywolfy 2008-05-20 02:21
I'm ashamed to share the same state with that man. If he ever walked into my business while I was there, I'd kick his rear end out.

Mr. Yon, make his life as miserable as you can.
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0 # rock4229 2008-05-20 02:28
Speaking from the perspective of someone who supports BOTH Mr. Moore and you it is my guess that Mr. Moore had no personal part in using your amazing photo. In fact, he probably had his project delegated to someone who was required to authenticate any photos used but somehow didn't with your work.

I speak (I hope and believe) for Mr. Moore in apologizing for not getting the permissions necessary.
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0 # Jen Betham-Lang 2008-05-20 02:29
Mike, your explanation was so well put. You define so well what is and isn't misuse of a photo and its message. Your work is noble, and we, as your readers, all know this. I agree with you and support you wholeheartedly. If Moore must use your photo, illegally as it is, at least we can say that it is a compliment to your skill as a photographic artist--that even he thought it so powerful a tool that he chose to use it, howbeit to his ignoble purposes, sadly. Your work is beyond art--it is outright powerful, and even Moore couldn't resist it.
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0 # vanessa 2008-05-20 02:40
He took that pic and put it on his site hoping that the ensuing firefight from it would be as loud or louder than that from that mag rag Shock?

This was calculated and I hope he has to pay you big bucks cause of it.
Hope your lawyer has a vice grip for a jaw and does not let go until they get your pound of flesh.

Moore is pathetic.
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0 # Melody 2008-05-20 02:44
Another fine example that you can't believe everything you read and how easily psyche can be mislead. I can only pray that those that are blessed with the energy and integrity such as Yon which are few and far between will continue delivering insight to us all.
Respectfully Yours,
Melody
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0 # Adam 2008-05-20 03:50
Michael,
Your maturity in this is...unbelievab le and yet for you it is not. Your integrity in the mission you've taken on is beyond reproach. When I first saw this, it was incredibly upsetting, but the reason our country is so incredible is that we all have the freedom to express our ideas freely as shallow and useless as they may be. You continue to surprise me both as a journalist, a soldier, and a man. Bless you brother.
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0 # Robohobo 2008-05-20 03:58
One of the ways to show displeasure for someone's work is...... not to buy it.

I purchased two pre-orders of your book.

I will never spend a penny on anything from Michael Mooron. EVER!

I won't even click to his web site on the off chance he were to get a micro-payment from ad revenue.

The Hobo
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0 # Darren 2008-05-20 04:03
Disclaimer - I have no idea of the facts of this matter other than what you have given, but is it possible you are overreacting? I am guessing that Michael Moore is neither a web developer or graphic designer, and he hired someone who pirated your photo (and probably a bunch of other peoples' images too) in the development of this site.

The sad fact is that this is the state of affairs on the web. Stealing people's content and images is so easy that many think it's ok, as if it was "just sitting there waiting to be used," sort of a "I found it on Goolge Image search so it's mine" attitude. I am in the wbe business and we have given up chasing and chastising the hacks who steal our content or images becauses it is easier than creating their own or paying for (sometimes at ridiculous prices, to be sure) the appropriate rights or license.

I imagine Michael Moore is letting someone in his office, or at his web company, have it right now. Being in the business of "protecting people's rights," even if only for the sake of selling films, he probably doesn't want to steal your images. Just a guess because I have been on both ends of this kind of BS (people stealing from us, and discovering lazy employees who had passed off someone else's work as their own) and we really just need to educate people about IP rights, and enforce them, as you are doing. Thanks for shedding light on the issue. Maybe MM will make a movie about it.
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0 # Joseph Edgerton 2008-05-20 04:36
Mr. Yon,
Like many of your readers, I eagerly awaited "Moment of Truth in Iraq," and bought a copy ASAP. The value of your book cannot be overstated. I admire your integrity in asking your readers to leave Moore alone, however, I feel that were the situation reversed, he would never allow you the same courtesy. For those who haven't yet ordered a copy, I'd like to paraphrase a section:

"Abu Ghraib widened the gulf between our military and the world media, not to mention that our forces are held to an incredibly high moral standard while the enemy is held to no standard. When the enemy sawed off a man's head on camera and posted the video online, it would be reported as our failure to protect civilians. Crimes against humanity committed by terrorists outside our control were blamed on the United States."

Now I'm not calling anyone opposed to the war a terrorist, even though it infuriates me, because that's a right they enjoy. But those who oppose the war should assign blame where blame is due.

Major Bieger did his duty, as you have done yours...has Michael Moore done the same?

Please keep up the good work.
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0 # The dark north 2008-05-20 04:56
My goodness.

For living in the largest democracy in the world, you sure have zero tolerance for differentiating views on matters.

(This mostly intended for the people commenting on this article.)
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0 # Malinda777 2008-05-20 09:56
I have long followed your truth. I originally stumbled across your blog quite by happenstance when I was searching for truth and real reporting of our war(s). I had long already made up my own mind as to my feelings and beliefs that our reasons for war were valid, and that victory through a defined end that will leave the region more stable was paramount; but until I read your stories, I never felt any validation through media.

Finding your blog was like finding a book I could not put down. (I donƒ??t even read really) I read story after story (dispatch), and was amazed at your fair reporting and the reality I felt I was getting for my ƒ??reading dollarƒ?. I donated to your cause a small bit. I immediately mentioned you on my own blog to try to get folks to KNOW that there was TRUTH out there, SOMEONE was reporting it.

Not only are you an amazingly objective writer, you are an amazing photographerƒ?? or are you? YES you are, but itƒ??s the circumstances you are inƒ??itƒ??s the indescribable nature of what youƒ??ve witnessed without prejudice or a side to take that has given way to amazing photography. Good or not, when you are taking photos of reality, unbelievable images are bound to present themselves. As it was with the Iwo Jima photo, the person who snapped that shot was just ƒ??calling it like he saw itƒ?; he never knew that the image would redefine generations and their mental image of that day.

I also want to commend you highly for reinforcing my belief that what you report from Iraq is truly a moment of truth. Your ability to bash Michael Moore to his knees while respecting his right to say his peace is something our nation has long forgotten. I agree with you 100%. ƒ??I might not believe in what you say or represent, but I will defend you with my life your right to say itƒ?. Nobody is denying Michael Moore that right. BUT, the simple fact that you asked him to remove your owned photo from his site and he would not says it all about Michael Moore. I guess he thought by ƒ??flippingƒ? the photo from left to right would make it different.

You were almost 100% right in your story. The only slight error I see is that you thought Mr. Mooreƒ??s readers would be ƒ??smarterƒ? and would see the defecation on Farahƒ??s photo and her story. Unfortunately, anyone that actually READS Michael Mooreƒ??s web pages is NOT smart enough to see the forest through the trees. They are sadly misguided like him, but still they have every right to read or say what they wish as long as they arenƒ??t ƒ??stealing propsƒ? to make their point.

Keep up the good work. Mooreƒ??s crime inspired my blog post tonight, (http://comejoinin.blogspot.com/2008/05/michael-moore-guilty-of-pornography.html). If you have ANY OBJECTION AT ALL to what I wrote, Iƒ??ll gladly remove it at your requestƒ??Iƒ??l l gladly remove any photos you donƒ??t approve of as well. THANK YOU for telling us all how it really is in the Middle East.
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0 # Waynester 2008-05-20 11:57
To all those who argue , "yeah but if we hadn't gone in, blah blah blah": You should remember that Saddan Husseain was known to gouge the eyes out of the children from whose parents he wanted compliance. Not to mention feeding people feet first into chippers, or a pool of muriatic acid. But I guess that was all just fine and dandy, huh? Hypocrites.
17 resolutions ignored or flaunted, playing 3 card monte with inspectors, then kicking them out, acts of war against U.S. EVERY DAY, invading neighbors, funding terrorism. Man, if you idiots don't take the cake. I can just hear these people saying, (if there had been a Commander in Chief they didn't like), "why are we attacking Hitler? Japan attacked us, not Hitler"...what a bunch of maroons.
Go get 'em Micheal (Yon, that is)
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0 # aloysius miller 2008-05-20 11:59
I forgive and pity Mr. Moore. There is no doubt that his pathology is deep seated and uneradicable. But his mother and father are unforgiveable for creating such a monstrosity. They should be deeply ashamed of what they did to disturb the boy that has never become a man.
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0 # CA13 2008-05-20 12:04
You, sir, are an honorable gentleman. Would that there were more like you in the public eye.

Godspeed.
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0 # Bob 2008-05-20 12:24
keep up the good works in getting the truth out about this war, we won't ever get that from the Michael Moore's.
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0 # Moshik 2008-05-20 12:34
at list we still have each other
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0 # paula 2008-05-20 13:03
Mr. Yon, I stumbled upon you and your site late in the Media War over Iraq. I applaud you for your honest and unvarnished coverage of our efforts there. It does not surprise me in the least that the miserly Moore and those of his ilk would pilfer your hard gotten works and use them to their own twisted and warped purposes. Sadly, that miserable excuse of a man enjoys the freedoms that our brave men and women have laid down their lives for. He IS his worst nightmare....irrelevant.

I would like to say that your photo of the Soldier and Child moved me to tears....as did the photo of the firefighter carrying the little girl after Oklahoma City.....Moment s in time seared in our memories.
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0 # Ted Sbardella 2008-05-20 13:05
You put it perfectly the idea about war porn and pornography in general and the way we are being manipulated by for lack of a better word "perverts". Thanks for making giving Farah death meaning and protecting her image, her memory. God is watching you, that is for sure....
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0 # Michelle 2008-05-20 13:21
I was "there" when Farah's death occurred, in spirit, as a reader of your blog. I have been touched and amazed many times since, seeing that picture and knowing in real time the story behind it. I know exactly what you mean about war porn, thats a good term for it. For me, when people misuse that stunning picture of a precious little girls last moments, they take away from HER. I wish that they knew the story the way I do, the way you saw it unfold. I wish they respected Maj Bieger for his risk, his words to her as she died. But they dont want to know the story, and the picture suits their needs for blood and loss. Farah (and the soldiers who mourned her) deserves better, and I am glad to know you are on the job. Thank you for the truth, Michael, we need more people like you.
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0 # law student 2008-05-20 14:43
It has no bearing on any potential copyright claim against Moore that Mr. Yon allows others to use his work free of charge--an artist has the right to choose whom to allow to use his work, whether paid or unpaid.
Think about this in the context of a song--just b/c the artist allows it to be used once in a commercial doesn't mean that everyone else in the world can then use that same song without an issue.
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0 # woodNfish 2008-05-20 15:24
Michael Moore is an unprincipled slimeball. I am nit surprised he would steal your photograph, Michael. I really don't understand why anyone even pays any attention to Moore at all.

I have to disagree with you about our right to free speech; it's dead. It died when the first hate speech law was inacted and its corpse was stomped deeper into the ground with McCain-Feingold . The USA is a police state and personal freedom is a leftover fantasy from when it actually existed a long time ago.

Sorry to be so negative, but the facts are the facts and that's just the way it is.
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0 # Arlene 2008-05-20 15:38
Michael,
The worst part of Moore's crime is the PARTICULAR picture he chose to use. That picture is very precious. It portrays the REAL heart of our military. How dare he even look at it?! You are absolutely right in that Mike Moore makes a mockery of this picture and he should be sued. When he has been properly sued, he should have a collective slap across the face.
Stand your ground Michael Yon!
We are behind you,
Arlene
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0 # Bill Fuller 2008-05-20 15:41
M. Moore is unworthy of comment. You sir, on the other hand have done our brave men and women of the military the justice they deserve. Your work of truth is a great comfort & source of pride to the famlies and friends of the troops
who have to man the home front while their loved ones are kicking butt. (we have two grandsons in Iraq each for the 2nd time). An old platoon sergeant informed me back in the early fiftys "if your honest and good, people will know; you don't have to tell them." Your work speaks for you Mr Yon. God Bless you, all of our troops & families and the USA.
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0 # William Ryan 2008-05-20 15:44
If the shoe were on the other foot, imagine the response. Imagine Moore calmly and maturely responding to someone he considered "pro war" about using his work in a clearly political manner. Impossible. He'd do his typical smarmy attempt at the high road laden with sarcasm and venom. He seldom (never that I've seen) tries to present a fair representation of views he opposes - in fact, if you disagree with him, you deserve mocked and ridiculed. I remember how he responded after the outrage of his mosaic after Bush won the last election.... like he always does.

You couldn't have written a better response and it's just one more reason I admire you. Moore has no class and never will.
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0 # maryann 2008-05-20 15:50
Michael,
I have followed you all the way from beginning to present of the iraqi conflict. Ive cried with you, laughed with you. Ive sat on the edge of my seat(Gates of Fire) reading for hours. You are the best. Your work reflects the man that you are,your integrity just the whole package. You are the good were I consider Mr. Moore the evil... That picture is so precious, to imagine someone using it like he is. The man is a disgrace. Thank you for everything you are doing for us and our Military.

Proud Military Wife
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0 # Mountaingirl 2008-05-20 16:11
Your book is the window into the lives of men-of-action like nothing I've ever read. Thank you for having the integrity to maintain your objectivity. It continues to show us your courage to give us the whole truth.

It makes no difference that Moore is sitting on a mountain of money.
You are the rare breed who battles best where the air is thin.

Take it to him and keep taking it to him! And let us know what we can do!
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0 # StrangeLove 2008-05-20 16:32
I admire your restraint.
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0 # Aye Chihuahua 2008-05-20 16:46
Mr. Yon,

Apparently your efforts, and the ensuing attention, has worked.

The photo is gone from his site.

***

Thank you for everything you do.

I have enjoyed your writing on the Net and have almost completed your book.

May God continue to bless you and keep you safe.
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0 # Rick Kellogg 2008-05-20 16:48
It looks like the pressure has worked. I just clicked on Michael Moore's website (and will now shower).

He has had Michael Yon's photo removed and replaced with other anonymous photos of wartime suffering.
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0 # Yashmak 2008-05-20 17:03
"you sure have zero tolerance for differentiating views on matters."

So indicating distaste for a differing view is now to be considered 'zero tolerance'? Riiight.

"You can't just say that Moore's work is propaganda. You have to prove it."

Michael Yon doesn't need to prove that. There have been entire books published for that express purpose, that have accomplished the task beyond a reasonable doubt. Moore's work is indeed propaganda.
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0 # Tony 2008-05-20 18:32
Michael,
Once again, your honesty and the truth prevail. It is refreshing to read your posts and your books as they proffer, not only a deep humanity and selflessness, but the crux of humanity. It is there for all to see, but you see it.
Many do not. Perhaps that is why their lives are unfulfilled and unhappy.
Where there is humanity, there is hope. Where there is hope, there is a future.
May your God, and that of your readers, whichever God it may be, keep you safe in the struggle to keep the truth out there.
Decency, honesty and integrity cannot be taught. Only learnt.
Stay safe.
Tony
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0 # Rev. Don Pendergraft 2008-05-20 19:05
I have seen comments that say that the image has been removed. When I went to his website on 5/20/2008 at 2pm C.S.T. the image was still there.

Thank you for all you do Michael.

Don+
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0 # Dale Stoy 2008-05-20 19:30
I agree with the observation, "A photograph can be a signal event in a war. Think of the flag raising at Iwo Jima, the naked Vietnamese girl fleeing her napalmed village, prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib. These photos were not just important journalisticall y, but also strategically ƒ?? each one literally shifted the course of a war.

Why do you suppose images of beheadings by terrorists don't seem to have had any significant impact?
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0 # Tommy Green 2008-05-20 19:36
I checked the site and he's taken that picture off now.
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0 # Waynester 2008-05-20 19:45
Looks like MM's webmaster/webwe nch/lawyers got the message...
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0 # Dave 2008-05-20 22:47
God bless you Mr. Yon, and God bless America. The nation has seen worse threats than that Moore. That fella would have no home to go to if his ilk had their way.
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0 # jstanley01 2008-05-20 22:54
Michael Yon: Kickin' butt and takin' names! WOO HOO!
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0 # Kurt Schoeneman 2008-05-21 00:11
Michael Moore will do and say anything to make his point. I really don't think he stands for anything except himself. Disgusting.
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0 # Paul Cox 2008-05-21 06:19
That includes you, Mr Yon.

Look, the likely reality is that Moore didn't personally select and post that photo on part of his web site. "Michael Moore" isn't just a fat guy who makes movies and stirs people up for his causes; he's a business. The odds are very good that Moore had no clue that the photo was posted.

Does that make it right? Of course not. Stealing someone's image is wrong.

But it's fairly ridiculous for all these people commenting to be going off on him on a personal, hate-filled level. The very idea of hating someone because they disagree with us, politically, is just blatantly outright stupid.

Whether Moore is a propagandist or a talented movie maker seems to depend on where the critic falls on a political scale. This means that it's not an objective truth and therefore the level of venom aimed at him personally is unwarranted and uncalled for- just as it's uncalled for to slag on him personally for the unauthorized use of Michael Yon's photo unless someone (including Yon) KNOWS for a fact that Moore knows that use wasn't authorized and is deliberately continuing to use it.

Believe it or not, there's plenty of people (like me) who are against the war in Iraq but love Yon's site and what he's doing to bring us the real news as he sees it. (Personally, I'm all for the war in Afghanistan; they had it coming. Host terrorists who attack other nations and your government deserves to be demolished.) I have written positively about this (Yon's) site on my own blog and will continue to do so, but one of the big reasons I do is that Mr Yon typically sticks to a "just the facts" approach. On this one, well... not so much.

In any case, the offending photo is now gone, within a few days of this news hitting this site, so perhaps Moore decided to do the right thing and isn't so evil and heinous after all?
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0 # Roy Mustang 2008-05-21 07:20
Our military are war criminals that prey on our young to join them.....accord ing to Mr. Moore. Is he evil and heinous? I guess he would be only if you find his views disgusting.
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0 # Gismo Fly 2008-05-21 09:16
In any many other parts of the world Micky Flatulence would be either dead, incarcerated or applying for asylum in the USA. The fact that he lives and can earn money while crapping in his nest is a tribute to American tolerance and generosity. You, as a nation, are a saintly bunch.

When this man dies please let me know where he is buried so that I can join the annual pilgrimage to piss on his grave.

Best regards,

Gismo
London
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0 # Huntress 2008-05-21 13:06
Paul Cox - I'd like to know how you KNOW what the facts are. Do you know Michael Moore personally? Michael Yon has called for civility towards Michael Moore in light of what he knows the facts are.

Mr. Moore - who I have the personal displeasure of knowing and sadly crossing paths with on MANY occasions is FULLY aware of what images HE selects for any of his films and his website. HE is a control freak who makes all his OWN decisions.

He has a history of stealing images & misleading, misrepresenting , and misusing both information, images, and people to push forward his sick twisted deceitful agenda.
This has nothing to do with his personal politics. I could care less if he supports the war or not. This is about his deceitfulness. EVERYONE of his mockumentaries is filled with twisted, distorted, misleading lies and innuendos. That explains why he has to lawyer up at every press event he does to publicize this garbage he puts forth.

Michael Yon's reaction to Mr Moore's theft has been professional and based on facts - not innuendo. Why you choose to give a liar like Moore the benefit of the doubt of an honorable man like Michael Yon who you allege to read and respect - is beyond understanding.

It is your attitude that leaves much to be desired..not Michael Yon's clear level classy approach to a thief's actions.

Mr Moore deliberately twisted & misrepresented the realities of the Canadian healthcare system in his MOCKUMENTARY "Sicko" . I know - I am Canadian and I have also lived in the US - so I have a point of comparison and I know the truth!

"Sicko" is not simply the title of his mockumentary - but rather aptly describes Michael Moore's state of mind.
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0 # Christina Finn 2008-05-21 19:55
Michael,
I wrote to you a couple of years ago! I have been following your dispatches, and forwarded and shared your site with contacts in my address book! I Truly DO Respect your integrity and your ƒ??EYEƒ? for the truth! Yes it is True a picture is worth a thousand words! I remember well, when your photographic image hit the net! I was moved beyond comprehension by the Compassion that emanated from this Profound Moment caught in time for All to understand, throughout future History!
I have spent many waking hours Supporting our Troops and share with all whom will listen, ƒ??I Believe in them and their mission!ƒ? They have spoken their Truth and shared their experiences, boots on the ground, in the field! I have visited D.C. #18 times to spend time with our Healing Heroes in both WRAMC & Bethesda. Even this past January making a trip to Landstuhl, we have heard first hand their stories. They know they are making a difference! I Honor your fortitude and insight to Hold Up those that would chastise the efforts of the brave and true!
Thank You for documenting from within a ƒ??Soldiers Perspective!ƒ? Your image has captured the heart of a caring, compassionate and loving America! If only there was not suppression, evil and dictatorships. All citizens of the world deserve to know Freedom and Liberty! I have truly treasured your eloquent text, and visual acuity through the lens of your eyeƒ??s perspective! Keep Up the great work, it is obvious you are passionate to enlighten and teach those of us who are Blessed to live within the safety of these Shores! Godƒ??s continued watchful protection over You and our Troops, as you continue The Mission!
I will encourage all to visit your site and purchase copies of your wonderful books! Keep writing and educating! I only wish more professors on campus, had your Patriotism and Heart!
Michael do NOT allow an opportunist like Moore to violate your profound image! Take the gloves off and go ten rounds if you have to. Prostitution is a filthy business!
Respectfully,
Christina Finn ƒ??The Pillow Lady!ƒ?

God Speed!

God Bless Our Troops, Our Veterans, Our World Leaders, & America!

Respectfully,
Christina & Daniel T. Finn (Ret.) Army Vietnam Veteran 25th ID 4/23 Mech. ƒ??Tomahawkƒ?
Founder / CO-Coordinators
Patriotic Pillow Project SM
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0 # Grumpy 2008-05-22 01:37
Mr. Yon is always a pleasure to read and, even now, amazes me that he can so politely tell off Mr. Moore in such a well written manner. I would have been much more crude.
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0 # The dark north 2008-05-22 10:44
To Yashmak

So indicating distaste for a differing view is now to be considered 'zero tolerance'? Riiight.

No - Indicating distaste is one thing.

But referring to a person as an idiot just because he happens to have a differentiating view on things, is another.

I might not entirely agree with everything Michael Yon writes for one thing, and I do not share the political views of many others commenting here. But I will not in any way or shape or form refer to them as idiots or any other degoratory remarks, simply because they are people expressing their views on matters.

Also making quite preposterous comparisons with, for example Leni Riefenstahl.

It's quite all right to express distaste for actions taken, but it CAN be done without resorting to verbal abuse or name calling.

Michael Yon did it quite well in his article above here, even though I am not entirely sure that Michael Moore had the intent of putting the picture there that Michael thinks.
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0 # John Bailey 2008-05-22 12:47
Mr. Moore's movies cross the liner between documentary and treason (as defined by 18 USC Sec. 2388-2389). However, our government typically reserves the prosecution of treason to those guilty of the most heinous offenses.

We are grateful that Mr. Yon's work has been removed from Mr. Moore's website. But that does not mean Mr. Moore should be "let off the hook". He should be "encouraged" not to do it again by punitive damages.

Mr. Yon has taken the high road on this. He is to be applauded.
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0 # woodNfish 2008-05-22 14:23
John Baily wrote: "our government typically reserves the prosecution of treason to those guilty of the most heinous offenses."

If that were true Mr. Bailey, Jane Fonda would have spent the last 36 years in prison. Actually our government is entirely too soft on traitors. Personally, I'd put them up against a wall and shoot them. That includes people who become traitors for campaign donations too.
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0 # dano 2008-05-22 16:02
I'm seeing alot of hockey-stick curves here. The readers' unctuous, fawning praise for Mr. Yon, declarations of admiration at Mr. Yon's "restraint", affirmations of the sanctity of tolerance and civility, then the plummet. The fangs are revealed by the rising lip-curtain, and M.M. is beheaded to chants of the pledge of allegiance, his "fat & putrid head" raised on a lance and paraded thru the streets that surround our countries military bases. Mr. Yon's pulpit also radiates the same kind of hockey-stick curve.
It's an image, used in a collage. The reader draws their own conclusion. The soldier isn't shooting the child. He's trying to save it. Theft? What does Mr. Yon believe he would do with the image? What is Mr. Yon's damage? Does Mr. Moore's use of it devalue the image.. lessen future compensation for the holy privilege of it's use? Good Lord.
On the bathroom mirror in a house in Fallujah, an American soldier scrawled a hate-filled message in lipstick, as an entire family sprawled on the floor where they had been sleeping..full of M16 holes. I've never seen that photo. No one has. So much for balance.
In Afghanistan, the U.S. killed, by conservative estimates, over 3000 innocent civilians. How many were killed on 9/11?
Iraq is a destroyed country, credible estimates put the number of dead civilians as a result of our unilateral invasion at near a million. One quarter of the entire population is refugeed. Over 4000 of our soldiers are dead. 30,000 plus are injured.
And Mr. Yon is upset over an image in a collage.
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0 # Jeff D 2008-05-24 18:57
The only time I have ever visited Mooreƒ??s website was today. I visited just long enough to see that the heroic image of Farah being cradled in the arms of Major Bieger has been removed.

Putting aside any legal concerns, the bigger obligation required of Mr. Yon is to honor Farah by protecting her image from misrepresentati on. Her image was immortalized in Mr. Yonƒ??s photograph and obviously he understands the responsibility he assumed in that moment.

Major Bieger cradled Farah in his arms and Mr. Yon cradled them both in his cameraƒ??s lens so we all may see the greatness and heroism that we are capable of.
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0 # T. R. Mader 2008-05-24 22:37
Mr. Yon - Keep up the good work. I want you to know there are a lot of civilians like myself who are extremely grateful to those who have served and those like yourself who tell us of all the good they do.

I live in South Dakota and have led Patriotic Tributes to Veterans on the Fourth of July for the last few year. I've also joined our Junior U.S. Senator, John Thune, in welcoming troops back from Iraq.

I'm working on a project that has great potential for encouragement to the troops and would like your assistance in a small way. Please contact me. Thanks.
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-1 # SFC Cheryl McElroy US ARMY RET 2008-05-26 16:05
Michael,

Re your quote:

"A photograph can be a signal event in a war. .....the naked Vietnamese girl fleeing her napalmed village....but placed in the wrong context, a photograph can be turned into propaganda, and the truth becomes a lie."

Just FYI: That particular photo of the Vietnamese girl was exploited in a very damaging way.

As stated by the photographer himself, Nick Ut, and clearly shown on film, the Viet Nam Air Force (VNAF) dropped the bombs that hurt Kim. This was witnessed and reported by UPI television correspondent Christopher Wain, and also reported correctly in the 10 June 1972 edition of Stars & Stripes.....Oth er journalists who were not there, through assumption, sloppy work, or malice, have since reported that the attack was by US aircraft, and have further embellished the story recently. Most of the commercials for the recent A&E Network documentary, and indeed, the host on the broadcast, said that the documentary would show ''the American commander who ordered the bombing''. That statement is not true. No American commander had anything to do with the bombing.

[note from webmaster] Hyperlink was removed

Michael Moore is a disgusting pig. He's a miscreant who sensationalizes the grief and sacrifice of American Soldiers for his leftwingnut agenda. Anyone with a couple of firing neurons will dismiss him as a fraud.


I wish everyone a good Memorial Day. Take care, Michael.
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0 # SFC Cheryl McElroy US ARMY RET 2008-05-26 17:23
While youƒ??re anally fixated on body counts, weƒ??ve killed THOUSANDS of enemy combatants in Iraq and Afghanistan. That kinda escapes you, doesnƒ??t it?
Asshats like you trivialize those killed on 9/11 and use the sacrifice of American Soldiers as another notch in your anti-war belt. By the way: We didnƒ??t mess around with Hiroshima, Nagasaki, or Dresden, now did we? We were as brutal as necessary to fight an enemy hellbent for world domination. Innocent people die in every war. It takes years to rebuild any country involved in catastrophic conflict. The restructuring of Italy, Japan and Germany took decades. Whatƒ??s the point besides the one on your head?


The invasion of Afghanistan was prompted by its use as the major operating base for al Qaeda.
The invasion of Iraq was instigated by 12 years of nose thumbing on the part of a WMD-wielding terrorist-suppo rting megalomaniac. U.N. Resolution 1441 gave Hussein an ultimatum and us the specific authority to force compliance, by any necessary means. That included military force. In case you didnƒ??t know, we found a substantial amount of hidden WMD along with documents and recordings in which Saddam Hussein emphatically stated his intention to continue WMD development and deception.

Oh yeah, and as for your lame reference to the "credible sources" on civilian casualties, you probably got your "information" from George Soros'-funded debunked Lancet study propaganda:

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2008/02/09/us-has-killed-655-000-iraqis-soros-funded-lancet-study-debunked

And here:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article3177653.ece

We were attacked by Islamic thugs supported not only by Iraq and Afghanistan but throughout the Middle East and they are two good places to start retaliation. Somebody had to step up to the plate. I didn't see the Eurotrash clamoring to join in.

Had I been in power, I would have made William Tecumseh Sherman look like a Boy Scout. Four countries would have been carpet-bombed into asphalt parking lots right off the bat: Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, and Syria. Then I would have told Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Yemen, Eygpt, and the rest ofthe Islamofascist states to brace themselves; we're not done.
That is how you fight a war. But I was a Soldier, not a diplomat.

Ok, dano, you can go back to playing with yourself.
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0 # thomas1950 2008-06-13 20:35
Interesting. Now that he has removed the image, I wonder if Mr. Moore has been able to find a suitable replacement. I mean, over the last five years have there been many other photos of casualties in Iraq?
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0 # TJ 2008-06-14 21:34
Yes, Dano, there are thousands of refugees. And yes, there are thousands of casualties of innocents. That's what happens in WAR. OPEN DECLARED WAR. Nobody told the people in the World Trade Centers that "Hey, we are in a war, it starts today, and you may want to stay out of high rise buildings or avoid any flights on commercial airlines". I am pretty sure that nearly everyone in Afghanistan and in Iraq knew that the USA was coming...we tend not to fly aiplanes into buildings without warning. Osama had plenty of time to move his tookus out of the plains and into the mountains, throwing the Afghani's in our way as living shields. Pretty nice guy, huh?

So save your sob story for someone less gullible. War is War. There are casualties. There are refugees. It sucks. That's why we as a nation should do whatever possible to avoid it. But here's the cold hard truth that you bleeding hearts don't seem to get--We either fight them over there in the sand, or we fight them over here on our soil. Which way do you want it?

We avoided it, shunned it for too long, and it cost us over 3000 INNOCENT, NON-COMBATATIVE LIVES IN ONE DAY. Clinton HAD Bin Laden handed to him, but let him go. "I have not had sexual relations with that woman". While we were focused on what the "definition of is, is", they were planning our downfall. Now we are supposed to feel regret or give up because there have been some casualties?

Sorry, Dano, but I am not buying the crap you are selling.
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-1 # dano 2008-06-16 10:40
Cheryl.. The Lancet report was never "discredited". The girl in that photo was a victim of the U.S. military. Cheryl, you're a nut. I mean it. A retired military nut. I hope you have meds.
TJ..news flash. Iraq and Afghanistan had nothing to do with 9/11. So all those 1000,s of innocents you dismiss as just chopped onions in a freedom-omelet are going to be staring at you after you pass and go to whatever place you're destined for. Hope you're ready. You would make Heydrich proud.
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0 # Tux Vader 2008-06-19 15:54
Regardless of what you think the facts are, Mr. Moore stole and misused a copyrighted image plain and simple. You think that posting it to his web site made no statement and that the photo was simply open to individual interpretation? Possibly but the fact is Mr. Yon took the photo, owns the photo and as such determines when and how that photo is used. Period. As a film maker Mr. Moore knows better. Do you think Mr. Moore would sit idly by if someone was copying parts of his movies and posting them on the internet without his permission? Hardly. This is just another example of Mr. Moore's over inflated sense of self worth and importance. He has appointed himself the moral compass of society. I don't know him personally but I do find his self righteous arrogance sickening and repulsive.

Whether or not someone agrees or disagrees with the war in Iraq is one thing but this was simply a case of copyright infringement. Mr. Moore should not only pay for the images use but also for penalties for its illegal use.
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