Michael Yon

"weaponized version of Borat" is the reason that I didn't read that column. It was used as a teaser on shortcuts to the post. Spouse of SFC USArmy Ret.

Unfortunately I can understand their confusion. I saw the Instapundit link to your article mentioning them as a "weaponized version of Borat" and assumed it was yet another article about how one of our so called allies was less than competent. I didn't bother to read it, trusting your judgement on the subject....

As an American, I had no problem recogizing that you were using Borat as a compliment. But now that I read this, it is easy to understand how others may not. In fact, it's hard to put into words what I implicitly understood--the Borat character had an unpretentious enthusiasm for life, as do the Lithuanian warriors. But, again, in retrospect, it is easy to understand how others may focus on the fact that "Borat" the movie was very insulting to the former Soviet Republic that he came from and other Eastern European nations might be sensitive to this in a way an American reader might not. Hopefully they accept your apology.

Michael: I read your article and wanted to meet these wonderful Lithuanian soldiers. They sounded like the warriors of yore, of the Bertrans de Beorn variety, who relished the fight and threw themselves wholeheartedly into it. What I got from your article is how awfully lucky we are to have Lithuania as an ally providing us with such stout-hearted warriors. I don't know how tall the Lithuanians on the battlefield are, but your words made them loom very large.

I read your article as only a compliment to one of our finest allies. I hope your recent letter to their commander clears up any misunderstanding. Keep up the great work and keep those fine articles coming.

I have read Micheal for several years, and understood that he meant the comment as a compliment, but then I understood the context and understood the who the writer was. Michael would either praise highly, or tell it like it is, if they were less then they should have been. After reading the article, I would have like to meet them and wish they were covering me in a combat situation. I missed my chance to meet and work with Lithuanian soldiers when I was in Kosovo, but did meet and work with some very fine and proffesional Polish soldiers, who were in the same contingent. Here's hoping the Lithuanian SOF command accepts your apology, understanding no harm meant. I agree, they sound awesome.

I understood the context also, but remember being a bit uneasy about it at the time it first appeared. I've had twenty years of experience in on-line text environments, and have always found cultural humor to be risky and prone to sometimes extreme misinterpretation. "Borat" in particular is too closely linked to mockery. You got bitten by the risks of freewheeling American-style humor, Mr. Yon, sadly. Your culture-neutral apology is handsome and should very well clear up the air, though.

My grandparents were born in Lithuania. My grandmother was the meanest/toughest person I ever met. She had walked across Northern Europe by herself when she was 16 to escape the Russians who killed most of her family. The Lithuanian people fought the Communist until the mid 1950ƒ??s when the CIA cut off funding and really never stopped. I was raised to love freedom and HATE Communist. If the LithSOF are anything like my uncles, you couldnƒ??t be next to better people but they just donƒ??t have a sense of humour.

Thanks for the correction Michael, you really don't want to piss off the Lugans.

It has made some of us more aware than we might, of the outstanding contribution of those Lithuanian troops, and of the Lithuanian people, at least for those of us who missed the column in the first place. Good for you, Michael!

Now this is just a guess on my part - but with the close cooperation between Danish and Lithuania military, I would say that it's a safe bet that the Lithuanian SpecOps has been influenced by the Danish SpecOps. You have already described some of the Danish soldiers in previous posts - so it all makes sense ;-)

I was one who read the original and thought Yon was being insulting. I am glad he cleared this up.

Don't worry, we forgive you. Lithuania is proud to have such tough and crazy soldiers. As I understand, it's special forces "Aitvaras" (eng. kite). Please post some lithuanian soldiers photos (with shaded faces of course). We want to know more about our boys

Lithuanian soldiers "weaponized version of Borat". From Russia with Love!!!

I came away from the article with nothing but good feelings about the Lithuanian soldiers. Their combat capability and likable nature earned nothing but praise, and like it or not their unusual cultural habits are amusing. "A weaponized version of Borat" was hilarious, considering how often US forces are called "cowboys" and such. It's a shame Lithuanians ignored the praise and fixated on a light-hearted comment. I suspect the soldiers themselves found it hilarious. My apologies, but I would have expected the Lithuanians to have more of a sense of humor than that. Yon's apology was graceful, however.

I can bet that not a single member of Lithuanian Special Forces took offence. All this is just a little misunderstanding which is a result of some lithuanian journalists who failed in portraying the story correctly.

I don't think any Lithuanian who've read original article were really insulted -- Lithuanians do have a sense of humor after all. Maybe there were some (mis)interpretations in local media, but I think your graceful apology will leave no space for them.

Michael, I guess here is an article with quotes from an interview with you - which you have mentioned here. An article itself is very positive :) If you would like, you could use translate.google.com to get an impression of this article: http://www.lrytas.lt/?data=20081220&id=akt20_a2081220&view=2

Well... having a sense of humor can get you in trouble. Thank you for being man enough to apologize to anyone that was offended by your comment.

Gee. The apology wasn't necessary at all. I am a Lithuanian,and I read the article on Lietuvos Rytas (major daily), and I did not find it offensive at all- quite to the contrary- I googled your name, found the original post, and sent it to my Belgian colleagues, who readily agreed that the post is very accurate in its depiction of a Lithuanian in action :) Soon after, I've received several copies of the post myself, from my Lithuanian friends; none of them seemed to be offended, everyone seemed to have a great laugh. It was and is a great post. I felt proud of our bearded guys down there, of the fact that our guys are different, and in a good way. There's a whole lot of cultural truth in your story- in business too we Lithuanians tend to be rough, direct, always politically incorrect, but usually greatly efficient and productive. Thats what I hear about me from my western colleagues, and I take it as a compliment. I enjoy the thought that while the French are busy choosing what to wear under the flack jacket, we Lithuanians are already killing our fourth terrorist of the day- in our underwear. To the defense of the journalist. There was no negative spin in the article. The journalist just chose to use the Borat quip for the headline, the rest was a clean translation of your post followed by a short information about Aitvaras. The article did not imply offense in any way. And finally- Lietuvos Rytas (our major daily) published huge article on Lithuanian special forces in Afganistan yesterday (Saturday, highest readership), obviously exploiting the surge of public interest your post brought. The article included your post, as well as a lot of interviews with American and Lithuanian military personnel. So thanks to you, our guys in Afganistan got their 15 minutes of fame, which does not happen to often. Pity Aitvaras is soooo ultra secret- the article disappointed in its lack of juicy details we all love. All the people in the know refused to speak, or resorted to canned PR phrases. Head of Lithuanian diplomatic mission in Afganistan had the nerve to say that he saw and heard things about Aitvaras enough to make a Hollywood movie or two, but he wont tell a thing. So now we, suddenly interested Lithuanians, have to rely on you, Michael, to get some real, interesting, juicy details of the Adventures of Lithuanians in Never Never Land :) Thanks again for a great post which shone light on our heroes- and our small country needs heroes very much, most of them were killed by Russians 50 years ago. Merry Christmas Liudvikas Andriulis Vilnius/Brussels

Hi, I have read the story in the Lithuanian newspaper, and was not offended. I would disagree with the LT reporter who said that big stories over 100 comments. I do not think it is accurate. I think 100 comments is average, and stories that people read a lot or care the most about, they normally generate 300-500 comments. But I do commend you on your story and on your apology. Stay safe.

"Lithuanian Special Operations Forcesƒ?? (LITHSOF) roots date back to 1944 when Lithuania started armed resistance against the Soviet regime. The tactics used by resistance fighters were the same ones used by SOF todayƒ??i.e. raids, unconventional warfare, clandestine ops, etc." Lithuanian Resistance Fighters: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpXYAKe6_qc&feature=related

Lithuanians have sense of humour no doubt. But your comparison sounds dumb. It's not a kindergarten. I guess you are a thinking person and next time you will consider better before you add an article. Some of us take it as a offence of your silly comparison. Think your doing well with out boys. Good luck

The message was clear to me: Lithuanian commando's are real warriors, always eager to engage the terrorists. I think the confusion comes in depending whether you see "Borat" as a hyper-enthusiastic fun-figure or you took offensive to this fictional person. It never hurts to apology, but I think it wasn't necessary.

It is regrettable that your highly complimentary post was taken wrongly. I took your meaning to be that the Lithuanians were great warriors with a sense of humor and no use for "political correctness". The objections to the post seem to come from people outside the troops involved. What has the attitude of the soldiers referenced been? Did they find it objectionable also? Survivors of the former Soviet Union have a first hand understanding of the difference between freedom and slavery. I welcome their support and I am thankful for it. Merry Christmas and May God Bless Us Every One. Especially all of our brothers and sisters that stand by their guns in foreign lands to keep us safe. Regards, Steamboat Jack PS For those with a literary inclination, here is a poem by Rudyard Kipling that catches the pathos of troops stationed in a foreign land. In this case India, but not so far from Iraq and Afghanistan. http://classiclit.about.com/od/christmaspoempoetry/a/christmas_india.htm

I'm very sorry that few our journalists have bad translation skills. and more sorry that a lot of common Lithuanians don't have any English skills at all. If phrase isn't understandable, the whole text clears it out that it was a very positive opinion. for which i thank the author. don't mind, and continua the good work.

The Pa National Guard is the Partner Group in the US with Lithuanian Armed Forces. The Guys I have met have been good guys all. When you see them in the chow hall the only difference between them and our guys is the flag on their sleeve. Missed you in Mosul, 31st MP's out of Campbell. Rotation after yours, Started with Alaska, Finished with 3/2 Strykers.

Maybe that is why they were so offended...I'm just sayin'. (Tongue in cheek) Veddy niiiice! I liiiike! Hiiigh fiiiiive! Keep up the good work Michael. ;-)

Nice apology. I think Americans see the fun in the comment, but some of a foreign persuasion might not like Borat or any comparison. You see political over-correctness, unfortunately, all too often now. Taco Bell's Chihuahua actually had someone of Mexican decent say, "hey!!! THat's me!! And I'm insulted!!", and I also heard people think Burger King is insulting 3rd world countries, or those in poverty, with their "Whopper Virgins" ads. This is the sick luxury we have after 5 decades of no foreign state threat on our domestic soil. Instead of talking about serious issues, we waste time on trivial crap.

There is nothing which will deflect the drive of one determined to be offended; being a victim is such fun! And it gets extra points with the Right Crowd (whichever one you happen to favour).

proud be lithuanian
kasp soldier

Happy Thanksgiving from Zabul Province, Afghanistan.

The Taliban seem to be mostly afraid of American soldiers. They do attack U.S. and inflict damage, but all around I hear from Afghans and U.S. soldiers that the Taliban are mostly trying to avoid contact with U.S., while focusing attacks mostly on Afghans. Some people see the Taliban as courageous, but I am seeing more and more that they use cowardly tactics, often hiding behind women and children.

I am tonight in Zabul Province and have been out with New York National Guard. Their morale is high and they think they are winning the fight, despite the long series of frustrations that come with the terrain of war. Especially in Afghanistan.

Our cell phones are not working tonight; the Taliban forces cell phone operators to turn off the towers at night. The Taliban are afraid of being tracked, and are afraid the Americans will interrupt their sleep. The cell towers are cut off from 5:30 PM to 7:00 AM. An American captain told me that one group of operators decided to turn off the system late one night, so the Taliban came, killed one man, and tortured two others.

On an interesting side, Americans and Afghans are giving very high marks to the Lithuanian Special Forces who operate here. They are less impressed with Romanians; Afghans and Americans say the Romanians are afraid of the Taliban, but that the Lithuanians are having a field day chasing and killing Taliban.

On the Iraq front, please read Down with Barriers, Up with Iraq.

The Iraq war is over, but the Afghan playoffs will begin in 2009. This fight is just getting started. Please send lots of Marines, and lots of training teams for the Afghan Army and police.

Your correspondent,