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Helmand Province and the wider “War on Terror”.

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Despite our early success in toppling the Taliban, almost everything we did afterwards undermined the massive amount of good will we had across the Muslim world after 9/11. Today, al-Qaeda are no longer seen as a bunch of extremist crazies; they are, to some extent, seen as heroes fighting against what they perceive to be an arrogant west. I fully accept that—with the possible exception of Iraq—our Government has acted in good faith and realised the seriousness of our situation, but I also believe the way we have executed this operation has been incompetent and half-cocked.

Where are we ?

An awful expression that does the rounds in Whitehall these days is, “We are where we are”. So, where are we now in Helmand province? There are 102 British dead and hundreds have been grievously wounded, many of whom would also be dead were it not for modern protective equipment. That is why so many people survive but lose limbs. No one knows how many Afghan civilians have been killed and some say that 7,000 Taliban are dead. We should remember that those people are mostly local people with extended families. The Taliban’s in-country command and control is in bits and we have killed many of their experienced commanders and tribal leaders. We might think that that is a good thing, but a newer, younger, more radical group of leaders might be emerging who are less likely to negotiate. That means we are facing more asymmetric attacks.

Despite gigantic spending by the UK, minute amounts of reconstruction have taken place. Last year, there were only 57 doctors in Helmand for a population of more than 1 million people. We have been there for three years, so that has happened on our watch.

Where is the security?

To the Afghan population, the most visible sign of the Afghan Government is the Afghan national police. We must do more to get the police under control, because at the moment we are not doing anywhere near enough. The roads and security infrastructure that we have built are often used to make it easier for the police to rob people. The other day, I spoke to an interpreter I used 18 months ago in Lashkar Gah: he told me that a teenager was recently abducted from his small settlement and returned in the most awful physical condition, having been repeatedly raped over three days.

Although the UK has taken the lead on narcotics, heroin production has massively increased. Many millions of small arms, well over 30,000 artillery rounds and probably 100,000 Apache rounds have been fired, but to what effect? I have not been to Helmand for more than a year, but I think I am the only person in the House who has been to Helmand outside the Ministry of Defence, Foreign Office and DFID envelope. I have been there a couple of times at my own expense to talk to and spend time with ordinary Afghans. Before we arrived in 2006, Helmand was a pretty quiet place. There were 40 US troops in the base at Lashkar Gah, and at that time I wandered around the town and asked people whether they welcomed the arrival of the British. They said, “If the British bring security and reconstruction, they are welcome, but if you cannot bring peace and development, you should go home.”

Consent of the Civilian Population

The Afghans themselves will decide who wins in Helmand and whether that will be the corrupt and frankly remote Afghan Government backed by the international community or the Taliban. It is incredibly important to focus on the needs of the ordinary Afghan, because the consent of the people is, in military terms, our vital ground. Three years after the arrival of UK forces, the Afghan civilian population can quite reasonably be disappointed. We still have their consent, but it has declined rapidly and markedly in the past three years. The Afghan people do not want the Taliban back, but that does not mean they will support us.

The Original Plan 2006

On the military, when British Colonels Worsley and Messenger were busy setting up the provincial reconstruction team and Camp Bastion, others were busy—mainly in Kandahar—writing a joint plan for Helmand province. When 3 Para and Stuart Tootal arrived they were accompanied by a huge logistical chain. People were pretty confident that there would be enough troops to secure the area around Lashkar Gah and implement the plan—the ink-spot strategy—whereby development could take place and reconstruction would slowly spread across the province.

General Omar Bradley said that amateurs talk tactics, but professionals talk logistics. At the weekend, a modern British general said to me that he would change that comment: he would say that professionals talk command and control. That was a problem we faced in summer 2006, when there was a massive deviation from what sounded like a pretty reasonable plan. That deviation has set the whole tone for Helmand ever since and has resulted in massive violence. Partly because of that, reconstruction and development have been minuscule.

Summer 2006 - dumping the original plan

In summer 2006, we found ourselves with an extremely confused command and control structure. There was the Government here, the chiefs of staff, the NATO command chain, a Canadian brigadier general in charge in Kandahar, a British 3-star in Kabul, a commander of the Helmand taskforce, and the commander of the British forces—the brigade commander for the Paras, who was in an ill-defined and difficult position. At the same time, there were a load of Afghan district governors around Helmand, the governor of Helmand himself, and President Karzai. Those were all conflicting interest groups.

Platoon Houses

The result of the lack of clear command and control was the decision to dump the Afghan development zone plan and move relatively small numbers of troops to remote locations in the Government district centres in northern Helmand. That turned what should have been a slowly spreading ink-spot strategy into a violently flicked ink splatter. The result of what is now known as the platoon house strategy has been the deaths of dozens of British servicemen and hundreds of civilians.

Inevitably, any thought of development was a low priority when the British were dealing with that very difficult military situation. At the time and since, a number of British officers have complained that although there were things that they could have been doing in those areas, they simply did not have the budget to do them. The number of troops that we had in the new situation was just too low to make them anything more than self-defending targets for the Taliban. Thousands of refugees were created, and the towns sustained large amounts of damage and ceased to function properly. That was hardly the security and reconstruction that the Afghan population had expected.

Later, the military realised that after the platoon house strategy, there was an urgent need to get on with the hearts and minds effort. That was an unintended consequence of the platoon houses. Perhaps not unreasonably, the civilian agencies, including DFID, considered development activity far too dangerous because of the violence. Over time, that has become a problem, born of the military’s view, which is still held, that the civilian effort in Helmand, particularly that of DFID, has failed them.

What of DFID? -

Even if the military had stayed with the plan and got everything right, there would still have been the difficulty that military personnel could never on their own solve the problem. NATO and our Government understand that all that the military can do is to provide the secure environment in which other things can happen and take effect. We talk an awful lot about the comprehensive approach—security, governance and reconstruction—and it sounds great, but a villager in Helmand could be forgiven for asking where that is and what the British were talking about.

Where is the reconstruction in Helmand? The British effort falls largely to the UK Government Department for International Development, but that is not an organisation charged with supporting the military effect. It likes to remind us that it is charged by law with the higher purpose of poverty reduction. Its whole philosophy and method of operation means that it is simply not geared to support military operations. As one senior officer put it,

“the military secure areas, but the civilians are way behind the military effort... we are lagging behind the rhetoric.... The problem is that DFID do not see themselves as part of our foreign policy.”

That statement came from a very senior serving general.

DFID believes that the best way to help a country is to support it with long-term initiatives. As one senior DFID official put it to a friend of mine,

DFID is not there for such initiatives; instead, it wants to undertake long-term projects working with Government Ministries. That is fine in theory, but in Helmand we do not have the time for that. DFID is simply not configured to do what the major on the ground needs to be done before, during or after military operations. It is not configured to help that major to regain hearts and minds.

Anyway, even if we have carried out a gazillion projects successfully in Helmand, what does that really matter if ordinary Afghans do not feel that we have made a difference to their lives?

Why have we not pumped money into the Afghan and international non-governmental organisations that do exist? Why have we not stepped up the cash-for-work schemes? Why have we not made more use of the local village shuras and got stuff in at ground level? What about the national development programme or the unused capacity of the Bangladeshi charity? Perhaps that is why the Minister is going to Bangladesh later today; I do not know. The Central Asia Development Group has just finished a major project for USAID—the United States Agency for International Development—and has bags of capacity right across the province; why are we not paying it to do some of the work? Why are we not using private companies that will take the risk? I am talking not about men with gun trucks, but about people who can get out a little further. They can be directed by DFID staff inside the PRT. The Germans are doing very well in this respect. Why can we not try to persuade the Germans to get down there and do some of the work?

Current attempts to re-focus / Shake-up in Whitehall

The new brigade commander in Helmand, the razor-sharp and remarkable Mark Carleton-Smith, went out to Helmand a few months ago, determined to change the focus from dealing with the Taliban to dealing with the needs of the Afghan people..

It may be against Conservative party policy, but I believe that it is time for DFID to come back under the control of the Foreign Office, becoming once again an arm of British foreign policy. The lessons of history tell us that we need unity of command for counter-insurgency. The NATO set-up lacks coherence, and even in Britain people have often not been conducting a single policy. It is time to adopt the Templar model from Malaysia. We need an overarching boss to be in charge, and a committee system. Even in Whitehall, no one is in charge. It could be argued that we have Cabinet Government.

Fine, but where is the War Cabinet? As I shall say later, this policy has potentially catastrophic effects for people in Britain.

Let us not kid ourselves. We have been there for three years, but an awful lot of people in Helmand are disappointed, and some of them are pretty angry with us. One of our commanders described it as a

“declining glide path of consent”.

It is like an aeroplane, but we need to watch out or the plane will land. Does the Minister agree?

What should we do?

I have focused on Helmand province, but I fully acknowledge that the picture is not gloomy everywhere, that large areas of Afghanistan are at relative peace and that reconstruction development is taking place - for example the US are spending gigantic amounts of money.

Are AQ and the Taleban the same thing?

I want to shoot a sacred cow. Whenever people talk about Afghanistan, they say, “It is vital that we remain in Afghanistan; we are there to stop al-Qaeda regrouping and returning to threaten us.” That is nonsense on several fronts. First, the effects of our over-ambitious and ill-resourced plan has been further to radicalise large numbers of people across the Muslim world.

We often talk about al-Qaeda and the Taliban as if they are the same thing. There is a significant difference. The Taliban are largely Pathan tribesmen with a traditional and nationalist agenda and no foreign policy. On the other hand, al-Qaeda is a loose international nihilist movement with a highly developed foreign policy and the intent, and, regrettably, sometimes the capability, to conduct mass casualty attacks across the globe. They are two completely things.

Mullah Omar himself is reported in the late ’90s to have been perturbed at the internationalist agenda of the Arabs that Abdul Haq had invited into the country earlier. Indeed, in 1998 Prince Turki, the internal security Minister for Saudi Arabia, and later the Saudi ambassador to London, landed his jet at Kandahar in order to take bin Laden away. Mullah Omar was going to hand him over. Only after a shura to discuss the matter was it decided that they would not hand him over.

Some people who know these things better than I do swear blind, although it is surprising to me, with my western point of view, that the only reason Mullah Omar and the shura decided to let bin Laden stay was because of the pashtunwali code under which guests are protected.

Return of AQ to Afghanistan?

To assert boldly that al-Qaeda will return to Afghanistan in a meaningful way is almost ridiculous. It is not the same situation as in the 1990s, when we ignored the place. Whatever we do in future, we shall still have an interest there. Since the 1990s, we have huge signals intelligence, with huge overhead assets and loitering military assets in the sky. Almost every square centimetre of the country has been mapped. If they began to return—I cannot believe that the Afghans would wish to wreak the same disaster on themselves as happened in 2003—we would be able to deal with them.

While we pour life and resources into Afghanistan, that contributes to al-Qaeda successes in the Pashtun tribal belt in Pakistan itself. Pakistan is important to the United Kingdom, as many of our citizens have one foot there and one in the UK. It is helping radicalisation in the “-stans”, in the Maghreb, in east Africa and across the towns and cities of the Muslim world, including some of our own cities.

Linking AQ and nationalist causes

The trouble is that by making the link between al-Qaeda and nationalist causes around the globe, we help al-Qaeda. Last week, my friend the Leader of the Opposition David Cameron made the following observation, although he was not directly referring to Afghanistan. He said that we need to understand that

“we’re not engaged in a single struggle against a single protagonist. We’re not engaged in a clash of civilisations, and suggestions that we are can too easily have the opposite effect to the one that you intend—it makes extremists more attractive to the uncommitted. Yes of course there are connections between terrorist activity in different parts of the world, but we have be to a little smarter in how we handle those connections. Our aim should be to dismantle the processes, separating each component part rather than just sort of amalgamating them into a single global jihad that just becomes a call to arms.

Need for a new policy

We need a realistic long-term policy for Afghanistan. Does anyone seriously believe that Britain and the West will be able to continue with this relatively large-scale loss of life and spending billions and billions of pounds for many years to come? I cannot see it happening. We know that some NATO countries are wobbling because of the cost and the lives lost. It is time to scale down from what we would like to do to what we are able to do.

I do not pretend to be a great expert, but I have spoken to a lot of people who are—I am talking about people who have been there for longer than a six-month tour or a nine-month tour or through the changeover and reshuffles and so on. The consensus among them is something like this: we need to accept that large numbers of people in Helmand province are deeply traditional, xenophobic and resistant to change, and that most Afghans hate the Feringhi—the foreigner—especially if they pitch up in armoured vehicles and attack helicopters. We cannot impose democracy at the point of a gun, so we need to play the great game in a new century and urgently bring the Taliban into the process with a national programme of local arrangements for different areas.

To the UK Government’s credit, some of that is happening behind the scenes and through various other initiatives that I shall not raise now. However, such a strategy should be brought centre stage, regardless, frankly, of what President Karzai says. We need a sort of “You leave us alone, we’ll leave you alone” approach and a bit of pragmatism. At the same time, we need to support intensively development zones and areas of the country that are at relative peace, reduce troop numbers to those that can be supported in the long term and focus our efforts massively on training the Afghan army and police.

I am not saying that we should disengage militarily. We should have small groups of troops on the ground, working with the Afghans; but it must be their show, and we must accept that it might not be very pretty. We should also be ready, at the drop of a hat, to send in helicopter-borne men with unseasonal suntans at dead of night, and to use missiles or bombs or whatever else at the slightest whiff of resurgent al-Qaeda.

It is time to stop seeing the Afghan Government as the key channel of development. We need development at local level and to let people locally decide what they want. We should let them start to feel some benefit from the presence of all those foreigners in their provinces. I am sorry to say this, and it may not be popular, but important aspirations such as women’s rights and opium production will just have to wait until the reality on the ground catches up. We are there either to fight and defeat an insurgency and reduce poverty or we are not. In short, it is time to get a little bit of peace through reality—we could describe it as the great game crossed with ballistic missile, submarine and special-forces diplomacy, underwritten by massive development spending.

Conclusion

I spoke at the beginning of my speech about the drivers of radicalisation. Three years ago, no one outside Helmand had heard of places such as Sangin, Gereshk, Nowzad and Musa Qala. Today, they are clearly on the map and internet sites of the global jihad. I again assert that we are in Afghanistan for well-intentioned reasons, but how does the Minister think that TV news footage of war fighting plays among impressionable Muslims even in this country?

The primary purpose of going to war in Afghanistan was to deny al-Qaeda a safe operating base. We achieved that aim a long time ago. Our secondary objective was the destruction of the Taliban. However, frankly—let us have some real politik—that appears to be beyond our means. Commanders can tell us that we are winning until they are blue in the face, and that increasing numbers of suicide and roadside bombings prove that, but, at some point, as in every other insurgency historically, we will have to make a deal with the Taliban. I have some sympathy with the argument that we must beat them to some extent and make them realise that they cannot win before we can make such a deal. Does the Minister agree that now is the time for a deal?

The big strategic challenge for our generation is to win back the good will of all those people who were with us on 11 September 2001. We must do that over the next six months, or over 10 or 30 years. We must take al-Qaeda back to where it was in terms of popular support across the world in 2001, which was frankly nowhere. At the same time, in parallel, we must reduce its residual capacity.

What we have been doing in Afghanistan is a long-term liability for the UK. It has been ill thought out and is counter-productive, and it is a further driver of radicalisation around the world and in this country, all of which contribute to our wider strategic failure.

We have lost immeasurable amounts of good will since 11 September 2001 and it continues to haemorrhage away across the Muslim world and Pakistan in particular.

It is time to free up resources to deal with the much more serious strategic threats that we will face in the coming months and decades. We need to win back that good will and fight the battles that really matter. When we do those things, we might be doing something to make our people safer.

 

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Adam Holloway MP
Just to let everyone know that this was a speach made by Adam Holloway MP to the British Parliament on 17th June 2008. http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200708/cmhansrd/cm080617/halltext/80617h0001.htm#08061768000469
Jules Nicholson , July 01, 2008
Hubris
Well, Adam, put the Taliban back in charge for 6 months and then revisit this inane analysis. Other than making the observation that DFID, like most UK government agencies, could do with a serious dose of relevance, the piece is quite vacuous, IMO.
Brian H , July 01, 2008
Afghans vs Taliban
Its strange that in this sentence: "The Afghans themselves will decide who wins in Helmand and whether that will be the corrupt and frankly remote Afghan Government backed by the international community or the Taliban." Holloway describes the Afghan government as "corrupt and frankly remote", while the Taliban are simply the Taliban. Hmmmƒ?? ƒ??So two Pakistani governments attempted negotiation with the Taliban and surprise, surprise... guess what happened? The British tried it in Musa Qala and guess what happened? Yes, in all those cases the Taliban has ignored its obligations while their opponents hopelessly prayed that the Taliban would abide by their promises. The Taliban are 0 for 3 as negotiating partners. Perhaps they are not ready yet. Hereƒ??s another ideaƒ?? Iraqi Sheik Offers To Take Fight to Bin Laden. Hero of Anbar Would Stir a Revolt in Afghanistan: http://www.nysun.com/foreign/help-against-bin-laden-is-proffered/79524/
Freedom Now , July 01, 2008
Not a Popularity Contest
The 'worldwide symptathy' Mr. Holloway is trying to regain is naturally at odds with the need to clean up the mess that the Muslim world has failed to address in its midst. Whether they like it or not, change will need to be imposed in the area to prevent the recall of the environment that fostered the Taliban and al Qaeda. Has anybody else noticed Mr. Holloway's contradiction between anti-Western 'Feringhi xenophobia' of the Afghans superimposed over a tolerance of al Qaeda guests under a 'pashtunwali code of protection'. Either we will win or lose. Mr. Holloway is unconvinced of the possibility of winning, so he will be of no use to persons interested in achieving a decisive victory in the area. The British were a strong ally in Iraq, which as we all know was a difficult and strenuous fight, but one in which we are certainly closer to victory than in Afghanistan. So much for 'UN/NATO help' in fighting wars where people actually get shot. Sadly, it will continue to be the Americans that pick up the tab for our pathetic and weak-kneed 'allies' in the remainder of the Western World. Let's hope for Mr. Holloway's countrymen's sake that his spineless commentary does not pass for a vision of the soft underbelly of the West in the eyes of AQ.
Dave , July 01, 2008
Re: Not a Popularity Contest 4 Tuesday
Dave, With all due respect, I take issue with your assertion that this problem is not being addressed by the Muslim world. We have many Muslim allies who have suffered greatly in their fight against our enemies. Their struggle must be recognized: Iraqi Kurds Iraqi Sunnis Loyal Shiites to the Iraqi government Kuwatis Afghanis Etc... I have no doubt that you mean well, but our civilization has its own problems. With people like Harry Reid, George Galloway, Medea Benjamin and a host of others... there is no shortage of misguided partisans that not only neglect the fight against fascism, but who incredibly oppose it. Best regards to you, sir...
Freedom Now , July 02, 2008
Clueless
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Adam Holloway is clueless if he thinks talking to the taliban is going to help anything. One needs to look no further than the deals that have been made already with them. They have broken EVERY ONE of them. What needs to be done in Afghanistan is Clear/Hold and Build, one province at a time. A mini-surge would allow for this. One of my favorite sections of the MNF COIN guide is "Employ money as a weapons system". Money seems to work well in these situations. Nowhere in the COIN memo does it mention to "urgently bring the into the process" as Holloway suggest we do with the taliban. He's wrong... and if he continues to spout this theory of talking to the enemy will work, one might even suggest that Adam Holloway practice what he preaches and head to the Swat Valley for a meeting with the taliban. Then one could say he's dead wrong. What we need to "urgently" do is to let Petraeus work on Afghanistan, which I am sure he has already started, and keep members of parliament and their decisions in a pub somewhere.
Ronster , July 02, 2008
clarification to clueless
The sentence: Nowhere in the COIN memo does it mention to "urgently bring the into the process" as Holloway suggest we do with the taliban. Needs to read: Nowhere in the COIN memo does it mention to "urgently bring al qaeda into the process" as Holloway suggest we do with the taliban. my brackets eliminated the words al qaeda...
Ronster , July 02, 2008
Petraeus used negotiations
Petraeus was willing to negotiate with Sunni insurgents when he was carrying the out the surge in Iraq. It led to the Awakening Movement and the defeat of Al Qaeda by the forces that used to be its allies and protectors. If we could repeat that same process with Afghanistan and the Taliban it could cripple Bin Laden's organization beyond repair. Though it might mean conceding to some Taliban demands.
Frank A , July 02, 2008
RE: Petraeus used negotiations
Frank, You have a couple of factual errors in your comment... While Petraeus usually gets the credit for the Awakening, he really didnt have much to do with it until it was already picking up steam. The Awakening predated the Surge and was nurtured by another great American military leader. Look to Col. Sean MacFarland for that. He built up a working relationship with Sheikh Sittar and got the Awakening off the ground. This article was written before the Surge was even announced: http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1572796,00.html Getting closer to the point. If you knew more about the Awakening you would know that we negotiated with people who were willing to fight against our enemy, Al Qaeda. Negotiating with Al Qaeda did not lead to any success in Iraq and those who negotiated with us joined our side of the battle. The prerequisite for joining the Awakening was fighting Al Qaeda and joining forces with the Americans. Please educate yourself.
Freedom Now , July 02, 2008
RE: RE: Petraeus used negotiations
My writing in the second part of the comment below didnt get the point across that I was trying to make. When I said; "Getting closer to the point. If you knew more about the Awakening you would know that we negotiated with people who were willing to fight against our enemy, Al Qaeda. Negotiating with Al Qaeda did not lead to any success in Iraq and those who negotiated with us joined our side of the battle. " While the above is true, it doesnt apply to Frank's comment. What I really wanted to say is that we only negotiated with those willing to change sides. Not useless negotiations like Musa Qala in which the British negotiated with the Taliban and suffered terrible consquences when the Taliban broke their promises and took over the city in direct violation of the terms that they agreed to. Musa Qala is located in the Helmand Province.
Freedom Now , July 02, 2008
Adam Holloway seriously in error?
Repeteadly, Holloway says: "On 9/11, the West had the good will of most of the muslim world" Balderdash. There was dancing in the streets. Yes, I know he is making politics, but how can he be so delusional, or dishonest?
Robert Wood , July 03, 2008
How we got here
It has become popular ƒ??group thinkƒ? to Hate Bush and blame him for everything. So, it may be worthwhile to look to the words of someone on the other side and consider why we are here. In an interview with Peter Arnett in 1997, Osama bin Laden outlined why he had already declared war against us (Clinton was president but he didnƒ??t ƒ??get itƒ?.) and stated four incidents that indicated that it would be an easy victory. Those four incidents were: 1. The Democratƒ??s failure in Vietnam. 2. When the Democrats prevented Regan from retaliating after the 240 US Marines and the US Embassy in Beirut were blown up. 3. When al Qaeda blew up the hotel in Aden, killing US Military personnel then in transit to Mogadishu and Clinton did nothing. 4. After al Qaeda engineered the downing of the helicopter in Mogadishu and Clinton cut and ran. This contempt for the United States was also reflected in Saddamƒ??s boast just before the invasion of Iraq that he would drive the US out with ƒ??a thousand Mogadishusƒ?. He based his whole foreign policy on the concept that all US leadership was (in their assessment) as cowardly, incompetent and contemptible as Jimmy Carterƒ??s and Bill Clintonƒ??s. The perception of the United States as a Paper Tiger among radical Moslems was not a new thing. Of course, there is the image of decadence that the US portrays in our ƒ??culturalƒ? products. (How could anyone watch the movie ƒ??American Beautyƒ? and have anything but contempt for Americans? That is what Hollywood thinks of Americans and that is the image they send around the world.)Anyone from a puritanical culture such as the more conservative Moslem states would despise Americans out of hand. But there was also a lack of respect for the power of the United States that was well into pure contempt. After Bobby Kennedy was murdered by an outraged Palestinian in 1968, killing Americans became a fun sport that all Moslems could play to gain street credits. With the exception of Pan Am 103, there was no significant retribution for acts of terror against the US. So, any petty despot could whip up support by inciting hatred against the US. If he murdered a few or a few hundred Americans, all the better. More credit and no consequences (except for when Reagan nearly got Gaddafi in Libya). We all saw the dancing in the streets after 9/11. I am sure that all remember the video from Osama bin Laden after the Democrats took control of the House and Senate some two years ago. He castigated the Democrats for not cutting and running as they promised before the election. I saw Senator John Kerry asked about this on a TV news show. He apologized and explained that they didnƒ??t have enough votes to override a veto. I can understand why Hamas has endorsed Senator Obama. They are confident of a replay of a Carter or Clinton administration.
Jon Jewett , July 03, 2008
Holloway speech delivered to Parliment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwrX-LN9-L0
Renee P , July 05, 2008
Eh?
What is this garbage I keep reading on this site? It's deflating and definitely divisive. Are you a closet liberal, Michael? Where is the un-biased perspective that made me come back for more for two years straight? Reading your dispatches used to be a refreshing mental, spiritual, and emotional exercise...Now all I'm seeing is liberal dribble, vitriol and non-sense. I love our country and am proud of our armed services who are kicking the terrorists asses in Iraq. Why, when our country starts to come out on top and the results for the world are dramatically positive do we always kick ourselves? Come to think of it, we allow the libertards to do it to us whether we are up or down. Why? You're losing me Michael...Beginning to rethink my past donations...Beginning to wonder if I should let family and friends know you seem to be taking the "no longer a friend of the United States" route. What gives?...So confused.
T Wright , July 06, 2008
RE: Eh?
Mr. Wright, While I strongly sympathize with your distaste for these articles that Michael has been publishing, I also caution you about jumping to conclusions. There is no evidence that Michael is joining the anti-American crowd. Although he has published partisan hit pieces from Joe Galloway and bizarre appeals for appeasement from Adam Holloway, Michaelƒ??s own words still continue to support our troops and their mission. Until that changes I will support his site. My greatest contribution is done by intelligently criticizing the Joe and Adamƒ??s articles.
Freedom Now , July 06, 2008
"...a crazy and quite unnecessary invasion of Iraq."
I wonder if MP Holloway is aware that while the US was never attacked by Germany, we still went to Europe. People who push this meme never understand the strategic importance of Iraq. It was flypaper. Our battle in Afghanistan was not attracting terrorists the way the Soviets' had. We needed an excuse to knock off Saddam anyway, so there we went. Terrorists streamed in from Syria, KSA, Jordan, and Iran - and were killed. In addition to that, the only way to kill an ideology is with a better ideology. Afghanistan was nothing but fields of mines and poppies. Twenty years of war had flattened everything. Iraq had money and lots of it. Carving out an island of peace, religious freedom, and self-government was the goal. It will take decades to get Afghanistan to that point, Iraq will be there in a few years if Obama doesn't screw the pooch.
Kafir , July 06, 2008
Holloway speech to Parliament
I'm tired of hearing the remark about "the West having the sympathy of the vast majority of the people of the Muslim world after 9/11." How is that so meaningful? What tangible safeties to America and its allies are brought forth from it? All it is is talk and good feeling, nothing more. It's just a mirage. As we're seeing in places like Sadr City, a lot of Muslims are enslaved either by fanatics or repressive governments and wouldn't be able to act on their sympathy even if they genuinely wanted to. I feel a lot safer with Saddam gone, a democracy taking root in Iraq, and the Taliban being pummeled by NATO and the US Miiltary.
Tom O. , July 07, 2008
Holloway
The MP makes no mention of the fact that the British government has practicaly done all it can to make victory in Helmand impossible. From lack of kit to speaking of pride while doing nothing of value to show that pride. At the end of the day British generals can only operate with what they are given. Unfortunately it seems the opposition is equally clueless. So yes its time for a surge, at Westminster.
Rob101 , July 08, 2008
Iraq, al Qaeda, and Taliban
We invaded Afghanistan because al Qaeda was safe there. We invaded Iraq because Saddam supported every type of violence against us, we had the international legal right to do so, and it made perfect sense to create and maintain a strong presence in the middle of the Middle East. Now Iraq is beginning to join the community of nations, and Afghanistan has a sane central government also. But if Taliban retakes power there, they will not only provide a beacon to the forces of benighted medieval Islam, because there they will have the example of a powerful victory over the forces of civilization. When the MP states that Taliban will not allow al Qaeda to return he is being disingenuous. They never formed a strong central government, and always allowed free lance movements provide crucial services. The defeat of Taliban must be sustained, and the governments of Iraq and Afghanistan must be supported. In the event that no other nation will join in, America must stand alone.
GMan , July 10, 2008
AQ in London
Adam Holloway whines about AQ and the Taliban in Afghanistan, gimme a break, the Brits can't even stop them in London.
Ayatrollah , July 12, 2008
Holloway's speech
Adam Holloway sounds like a better educated and more compelling version of an American liberal in congress. He criticizes everything that is, and his 'solution' contains no real guidance. Nothing quite like a back seat driver, even if he goes to the trouble of visiting the battle zone in order to give credence to his leftist drivel.
dave , July 13, 2008
A sensational farce
Holloway has real potential here in America. I think Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid could use him in their plans. This guy tracks their rhetoric: "The result of the lack of clear command and control was the decision to dump the Afghan development zone plan and move relatively small numbers of troops to remote locations in the Government district centres in northern Helmand. That turned what should have been a slowly spreading ink-spot strategy into a violently flicked ink splatter. The result of what is now known as the platoon house strategy has been the deaths of dozens of British servicemen and hundreds of civilians." That's the beginning of the paragraph. "Later, the military realised that after the platoon house strategy, there was an urgent need to get on with the hearts and minds effort. That was an unintended consequence of the platoon houses. Perhaps not unreasonably, the civilian agencies, including DFID, considered development activity far too dangerous because of the violence." That's his summary of "platoon house". Does that not have the look and feel of the liberal flip-flop and apologetic partisan? And this guy thinks the UK has a clue when they have orders to put booties on dogs when searching a Muslim household.
tom L. , July 14, 2008

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