Curiosity Did Not Land on Mars

09 August 2012

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Curiosity did not land on Mars, but in the Dasht-i-Margo (Desert of Death) Kandahar Province, Afghanistan.  This looks amazingly like Afghanistan, including two small IED craters on the left-front.

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+3 # MarsMiccolis 2012-08-09 14:44
So thats where the Martians got their landscape ideas from!! :-*
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+2 # RE: Curiosity Did Not Land on MarsAl Johnson 2012-08-09 16:03
I am not getting the posting - is this a conspiracy theory/tin foil hat thing, or satirical? I have followed your blog for a good while, and I am still (easily) confused...
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+2 # RE: RE: Curiosity Did Not Land on MarsJohn Christ 2012-08-09 16:08
I think he's joking.
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+4 # RE: RE: RE: Curiosity Did Not Land on MarsAl Johnson 2012-08-09 16:12
I assumed - but with the wackiness in the news these days, heck even I with a masters in hard sciences is starting to wonder, or at least question.
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+2 # JokingMichael Yon author 2012-08-09 16:37
Al,

Joking, but am not joking at all that these really looks like parts of Afghanistan. If you showed me this picture in a different context and said it was Afghanistan, I'd say that it probably is.
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# RE: JokingAl Johnson 2012-08-09 16:44
Gotcha - thanks for clarifying!

Now about that calendar and those little green men...
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+1 # From intention to true storyT2 2012-08-09 21:48
That is some funny stick.
When you look out in the distance at the hills, soon madmax will be kicking up dust tails.
Intention is powerful stuff.....
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# Exhaust PlumesAl Barrett 2012-08-10 01:08
Those two small craters are exhaust plumes made when Curiousity landed. According to Dr Philip Metzget,, physicist for NASA, the photo was taken in order for him and others to study them. He stated that rocket exhaust cratering is a significate challenge to manned launches in the future. When I pointed out you had noticed the craters, he wanted me to congratulate you on your keen eye.
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# RE: Exhaust PlumesJohn Smith 2012-08-10 02:52
Why exactly would the cratering present a significant challenge to manned missions?
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+1 # RE: RE: Exhaust PlumesErrol Coder 2012-08-18 15:52
It is what is there. On the otherside of the Dark band dune field is a Silica deposit at the base of Mt. Sharp which gives evidence of liquid water in the crater. Studying the silica can show us the hydrodynamic history of Mars, and potential reveal past existence of life in the area.
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# RE: RE: RE: Exhaust PlumesAl Barrett 2012-08-20 15:49
We can't safely land human-class missions (much, much larger thrust) until we learn how to control the cratering. This is the largest vehicle to land on Mars to-date, and even with the long tethers of SkyCrane it still dug into the soil. Imagine a 40 to 60 ton vehicle's plume effects!!!
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# Good point, AlMichael Yon author 2012-08-20 15:58
Another challenge to be overcome.
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# Robert's ModelAl Barrett 2012-08-20 20:02
There is a theorem that is used called Roberts’ model. It is mostly used for lunar soil erosion beneath a landing rocket. It has been updated in several ways to predict the effects of future lunar landings. The model predicts, among other things, the number of divots that would result on surrounding hardware due to the impact of high velocity particulates, the amount and depth of surface material removed, the volume of ejected soil, its velocity, and the distance the particles travel. The results are compared against measured results from the Apollo program and predictions are made for mitigating the spray around a future lunar or Mars outpost. At this time the experts are predicting that a manned vehicle will have to weigh around 40 - 60 times more than Curiosity. The exhaust plumes would create an enormous sandblast.
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# Robert's ModelAl Barrett 2012-08-20 20:12
Here is some info that has been released to the public. I worked with these gentlemen.

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20120000658_2012000547.pdf
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# Very InterestingMichael Yon author 2012-08-20 23:37
Al,

Am going to imagine this will be a great deal more counter thrust than Eagle and the other five manned lunar landers. For one, they have to bring a lot more "stuff" to mars. And for two, more gravity than the moon. I suppose they could land other supplies in advance. Maybe there is a way to do a near landing in advance with a supply ship to blast away surface stuff in order to land on any smooth rocky areas that might be found in advance.
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# FutureAl Barrett 2012-08-23 14:39
That is correct Michael, The heavier the load the more thrust that is required. As of right now, we do not have the answers, but this adventure is giving a lot of information. Some of this countries greatest minds are working to make this a reality.
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# Support from meMichael Yon author 2012-08-23 14:45
Well, Al, the good folks at NASA can count on me for moral and ink support. Am sure there are many others ready to do the same.
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# RE: Curiosity Did Not Land on MarsJonathan Halsey 2012-08-10 08:49
Stanley Kubrick could have faked the landing in a studio for a lot less money. Google "Jay Weidner".
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# 100pros sureJM 2012-08-13 08:29
It is clear, that the rover is not on the Mars. I don't still believe that man would have ever even reached the Moon. I am thus 100% sure that this rover thingy is again bull.s.
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+1 # RE: Curiosity Did Not Land on MarsErrol Coder 2012-08-18 15:50
The IED spots you see are in fact the thruster blast locations when the Sky Crane lowered Curiosity down.
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# Thanks, ErrolMichael Yon author 2012-08-18 16:03
This is very impressive stuff. Have been going to the NASA site every day, but not really posting on it. Just watching in amazement. (Not just Curiosity, but other missions.)

Money well spent.
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