A Young Iranian Woman Writes
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25 January 2012
A young Iranian woman has written to me off and on for a couple of years. Yesterday she sent a note.
I responded in part with a few questions:
What do young Iranians think about our government and about the Iranian government? Also, do you think there will be war?
She replied immediately. I corrected some minor grammar:
“To make the long story short people in Iran, not just youth, hate the government and want to move out of the country as soon as they can. My sister [deleted] is moving to [deleted] with her husband this July and then when my mother gets retired, me, my younger sister [deleted] and my parents will sell our house and move to live with them. My father isn’t convinced yet but all he needs is time, I’m sure he will choose to come with us.
“I am a patriot and I will remain one no matter where I am, but lets face it. Things are bad and getting worse as every day goes by. I have plans for my future and do not want to stay in a country where my skills and capabilities are most likely going to waste.
"The Iranians do not hate you nor do they hate ur government. This is all the media. The people have nothing to do with the media Michael. No one is against you here except for those on the government's side. Unfortunately they’re not few, they’re actually many, but they won’t last forever. Someday this is all gonna turn upside down. Sometimes I ask myself do I wanna be here for the next revolution? I dunno ...
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What? What exactly has he done to support the Iranian people?
Virtually ignored it.
Protesters were killed on the streets and people were dragged off to prisons and raped and tortured.
Moral support for the Iranian people from Obama?
You are delusional.
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/brmiddleeastnafricara/527.php
"What will the future bring?"
Will there be war or civil war? She seems to conclude that it is not a matter of if, but when.
I agree with her that we are not given a clear picture by the media outlets in the United States, who in my opinion are as anti-US as the current Iraqi government she speaks of.
Additionally, having lived and worked in many Islamic countries in the past I am sure that graft and corruption play a large part as to who is the current leadership of Iraq is. Combine that with the conflict between Sunni and Shia Muslims and it is a disaster in the making.
The above assumptions seem outlandish based on the limited information available to me in her statement. But, I have tried to place myself in her situation and look at it from her perspective. She has already decided that the future in Iraq looks bleak and that leaving is the only answer.
I support our troops regardless of where our government may send them to be in harm’s way. I do not always agree with the logic behind the US political decisions made to do so.
It grieves me that many US and Coalition Forces soldier’s lives have been lost for naught. It appears that Iraq will continue to spiral into chaos.
Oops! My Bad!
I would leave out the Sunni / Shia issue but everything else stands. I will say, she is speaking of a more country state thatn Iraq.
Thanks for pointing out my glaring error.
The sooner they all get back to killing each other off, the better off the West will be. If we somehow took out the current Iranian regime, who knows what would rise to power in it's place? I'd wager that the more ruthless of aspirants would succeed in that part of the world.
The only lesson I've learned over the past decade that intervening in Islam is a fool's errand. Defending folks from Islam is laudable, but trying to get a country filled with Muslims to even consider western-style civility is pointless. Their religion prohibits them from buying what we're trying to sell.
Islam is the new evil empire. It's always been an evil empire, but it's pre-petroleum-w ealth impotence made it's imperialism unimportant. Now that they've got our oil money, we've been forced to recognize the danger Islam represents to all mankind.
I don't care if surveys say 99% of Iranians support us: eff 'em. They'll hate our infidel backsides in a week after we land.
That is a very, very sweeping generalization you made. Practicing Muslims live in nearly every major country in the world and they function just fine while adhering to "Western style civility." Blaming Islam for the way things currently are in the ME is like blaming Christianity for the Crusades. As the very letter you're responding to shows it isn't religion that's the problem; its power hungry, ruthless, greedy people.
As much as I don't agree with Islam, I'd still like to point out that a lot of the violence might have something to do with the region itself, and not quite that much with the religion. Take a look at the Lebanese civil war. There were Muslims and Christians pitted against each other, and both sides behaved like they were from the 13th century of Europe, but with assault rifles.
It probably has more to do with being in the third world than being Muslim.
Yeah, you know how Iran wound up a nutcase Theocracy in the first place? Because 'we' took out the independent Iranian regime in the 50s, and replaced it with a commie-hating, pro-west autocrat. Islam is an evil empire, what, are you literally twelve or something? Pack up your generalizations and your culture war BS and grow up.
"Western-style civility" that's a bit rich considering your comment.
Resting easy only means we're caught flatfooted when it actually happens. Better to prevent than to cure.
No, we were not. What it does go to show is that just one person with the determination to cause destruction will do so. The level of that destruction will be likely tied to the amount of time and planning they put into their act.
The security theater that you see all around us now will not stop anyone with the will to destroy. And that is fact.
However, there are millions of Muslims that are innocent victims of brutal, totalitarian regimes that will never know the freedoms I have experienced in my lifetime.
It is sometimes difficult to separate the general populace of a country from its wicked government.
What U talkin bout?
The US is where all foreign countries learn how to be corrupt!
And if it wasn't for our enemies, we'd all be friends. Nice to see the Iranians have mastered the art of doublespeak, but I guess it comes more easily after having learned doublethink in the Revolution.
That said, I believe she's meaning that those against the US Government are mostly in that boat because their government, which they are loyal to, are against the US. Meaning, if the Iranian President said tomorrow Malibu Barbie is the best and he endorses Newt Gingrich, they would potentially be Pro-US on Election Night, Nov '12.
The diametric opposite was true in Iraq, with a pro-West Shia and Kurd majority oppressed by a minority Baathist military dictatorship. This Iranian "friend," even when trying to appeal to us on an emotional level, doesn't even try to convince us that her views are a majority opinion in Iran, because one look at the weekly "Death to America" rallies makes any such claim look absurd.
The engineer or writer that you meet may see things similarly to you, but the farmer or delivery guy you never talked to may have never thought in the same terms that this woman does.
At the very least, an English speaker with email and a Western contact represents a minority. That doesn't mean the rest love the government, but they may see the situation (and the US) very differently. Propaganda from a regime they despise and mistrust may still work on them. What else do they have to know us from?
Dennymack
LA's large affluent Iranian community provides much programming that is happily consumed in Iran. Studying English is common, as are computers. Iran is not wealthy or free, but it is not a Turd World country. Iranians take pains to clarify they are not Arabs, whom they generally dislike.
On 9/11, the first person to call me--before I even knew what was happening back in the US--was a domestic student. The next was an Iranian foreign student. Iranians later took to the streets in solidarity with the people of the US, whereas the Palestinians and others celebrated.
On those big "Death to America" protests, I was told young Iranians love them because they are the only gov't-sanctione d public events. At a protest, you can be young, raucous, and mingle with the opposite sex. At no other time can you have fun without the gov't cracking your head. Yes, they're shouting "Death to America" but it's an empty slogan for most. They know the cynicism.
I study with a young Iranian-America n who travels to/from Iran occasionally. The picture I get is, I assume, like the Soviet Union: The majority know they're being screwed, but there is little they can do, so they try to escape.
You are right Iranians are NOT Arabs and they will quickly correct you!
Iranians are far more "westernized" than people know or want to believe.
It's the greedy grubby snot gobbling mullahs and their sycophants, currently ruling the country who are causing all the negative impressions of the Iranian people.
To the young women who wrote this, thank you. It's great to hear someone elses perspective. This is why, as I travel Afghanistan, I stop anytime a local asks and I spend time trying to learn and understand their view of Afghanistan, Islam, the US, and the World. We're all on this big, blue marble together.
I still correspond with some Iranians and they are not happy at all with the way things are. If they new that the west would support them fully if they tried another revolution, they'd do it in a heartbeat. The problem with this proposition is what happens with the government after an overthrow? We have all seen what happens in places like Egypt, Somolia, Libya, etc. This regions has an extremely long history of instability and I'm afraid that this is just the nature of the people.... sad, because most of them are very good people.
Brian
So the bottomline is, when the Freemasonry/Ill uminatis work they make sure that both the Wrestlers in the Arena belongs to one owner...are you catching my drift?
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Thanks
Unfortunately the Iranian government opperates under the muslim philosophy of "The enemy of my enemy is my friend."
The time between 9/11 and those things might've been opportunities we'll never see again.
i'm a young screenwriter who lives in Iran..its really not fair i have done my best i have written so many scripts...so many ideas...but there is no support...and that's because they don't like the idea and with "they" i mean the government, they support only those writters an directors who make what they like and want to be maked... they put everything to politic's way and then they refuse it...i desperately need support...pleas e help me
Of all Muslims, I have little hope for anyone else except the Persians.
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